can someone identify this missile?

tripwire SG · 2008-02-16T14:05:51+00:00

did any of you guys seen the video? that missile is shown at 8:04, its in slow motion... and it spins... mms://media.mindef.gov.sg/dw/dw_may07_hi.asf

tripwire SG

from a mindef video on the formidable frigate.

looks like missile... but unlike those already known on the frigate...

private message me if its too sensitive.

mms://media.mindef.gov.sg/dw/dw_may07_hi.asf

Vincepcb SG

Harpoon anti ship missile

BangHong SG

hmmmm

GIB SG

Tancold SG

It looks too long and moduler to be the Aster 15.

The launch signature looks more like harpoon the RIM-116 RAM.

RAM launch signature less flame.

Should be Harpoon.

tripwire SG

this is the second frame of the unknown missile.

this cannot be the harpoon...considering the absence of fins along the missile body and the lack of a long trail of black smoke during booster phase of a harpoon missile.

the following two pictures are harpoon firing from the formidable.... notice the numerous fins along the entire length of the harpoon missile and the long black trail.

GIB SG

Compare the outline of the missiles in both pictures. So far this seems the closest fit in terms of missile outline.

RAM

Second frame

Vincepcb SG

Correct me if I am wrong. I do recalled that our Formidable frigates are arm with the below weaponry but not the RIM-116 RAM Rolling Airframe Missile.

- Boeing Harpoon anti-ship missiles

- MBDA Aster 15 surface-to-air missiles

- Oto Melara 76mm gun

- Eurotorp A244-S Mod 3 torpedoes

Vincepcb SG

Correct me if I am wrong. I do recalled - our Formidable frigates are arm with the below weaponry but not the RIM-116 RAM Rolling Airframe Missile.

- Boeing Harpoon anti-ship missiles

- MBDA Aster 15 surface-to-air missiles

- Oto Melara 76mm gun

- Eurotorp A244-S Mod 3 torpedoes

tek_koh SG

Mindef like to 'smoke' us mah... they tink many dunno such stuff

Skye2 SG

Wah Tripwire. Me longtime never visit. 1st post i see is yours eh. Urgh, Im still having problem logging.

Its not RAM. I believe it`s a NGDS decoy. Correct me if Im wrong.

Download this file; www.sagem-ds.com/pdf/en/D1068.pdf

Compare the cross-section of the projectile to the cross-section of the decoys.

By the way, the decoys are pretty damn good. The French are relying on them as a point defence system in place of systems like the RAM i think. And the Formidable do orginate from France.

However, this does not mean that the RSN will not incorporate other weaponry to enhance the defensive capabilities of the Formidable frigate in the future. Just look at the upgrades done to RSN warships over the years. But you already know that of course.

tripwire SG

i have thought of that possibilities... but there are 3 problem.

1. the huge fire ball at the initiation of missile launch seems rather unusual for a decoy launch system.

2. if you look at the video... the missile after launch clearly (looking at the tail fins) is spinning.

3. a second part of the missile video clearly shows the missile going off to a high parabolic trajectory like a SAM.

Shotgun SG

2nd frame shot doesn't look like a SAM. A missile that near to the ship should still be in its boost-stage. If its a RAM, it would most likely boost all the way to target. I think its most likely the NGDS as well.

Skye2 SG

I would expect RSN to install Typhoons or similar weapons around the hangar area as the Formidable`s rear is pretty much exposed to small arms fire. This would give her a 360 degree coverage in terms of protection from small littoral threats together with the Super Rapid in front.

spartan_6 SG

Tat not a RAM due 2 its exhaust signature

spartan_6 SG

Look like a mistral which our frigate carry

spartan_6 SG

After searching e internet i believe it is a Harpoon SSM after all, but not e "normal" Harpoon but e anti-ship cruise missile version which lacks e middle fins

spartan_6 SG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwx50XYXwE
YouTube – Coastal truck battery firing a Navy Harpoon missile

spartan_6 SG

E missile's range remains @ 120KM but has GPS/INS + datalink for land attack use & better capability vs ships very near landmass

BTW our frigates can carry up to 32 harpoons

specialOps SG

Why so complicated analysis?

Its straightforward...its a Harpoon.

The Aster and Baraks are vertical launched....torpedoes are dropped into water...therefore, from launching attitude and size/shape...its a Harpoon la, so simple.