Discuss ways to attack and defend singapore

last SG · 2007-12-24T02:07:37+00:00

''Mine the Straits of Malacca such that it will take years to fully minesweep the area ? 1.Any country do this is as good as declare wars on PRC,Japan,Korea...

maurizio13 SG

Depends on some factors.

1) Time Required

2) Resources Committed

If enemy forces, they definitely want a prolonged war.

Whereas Singapore would want a short war.

If you are pressed for time, you are more likely to commit errors.

If Singapore can't neutralize the enemy forces within 3 months, my money is with the enemy forces.

Singapore forces should be more offensive rather than just defensive, if enemy forces decide to play for time. We can mount an attack to conquer their country. Instead of just sitting around waiting for artillery to shell us, our food and other resources to run dry.

Also depends on who the offensive country is. We should capture the enemy's territory to boost our strategic defence. We would need to have good communications and support to launch an effective invasive force.

LazerLordz SG

In all but name..we are offensive.. to prepare for the defensive..

maurizio13 SG

We also need intel on the terrain of the enemy land, to better deploy our support and soldiers effectively.

specialOps SG

hhaa this is a funny thread…because those who really know can’t speak, those who speak are talking crap.

specialOps SG

i am beginning to suspect who this ray is….his questions are strange.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

To effectively defeat Singapore, look further than her arm forces. While true that in a war you have to beat the arm forces, in Singapore's case, it may not be true at all.

Cutting off our supplies may work... but as Singaporeans are known for being kiasu... you won't know where we stockpile things somewhere else... a more effective way is find out where we stockpile those stuffs and remove it.

Lastly, break all communications. Singapore's Total Defence strategy works when communications aren't broken. Break that, you will break the people's confidence + arm forces way of communications to the citizens.

Oh... and to win... flatten any buildings you see with the Yellow Triangle that SCDF puts up. This one is a real gold for the enemies.

abao SG

Originally posted by specialOps:
hhaa this is a funny thread...because those who really know can't speak, those who speak are talking crap.

i am beginning to suspect who this ray is....his questions are strange.

Haha...true. Those that commented are probably not in any real position of power Wink

Reading this (ray243) comments in other threads suggests that s/he thinks a war is as simple as a game of RTS.

Originally posted by NewAge:
Other trade routes sure but are u paying for the increase in transportation cost? Are u taking the responsibility of the reduce in profit?

Lets just assume u are M.

I will just send troops to johor and down to KL (by doing this i secure my food and water supply).

Send a fleet to intercept yr ships in MOS while requesting reinforcements from I.

Form an alliance with China, Vietnam, Japan Australia n Korea to form a pincer attack with yr fleet in the south china see.

C, K, J might not due to long standing rivalry between their navies. Each have over 100 ships deployed as deterence against each other, and I dont see that changing in short term.

So left A and V, which is still a serious threat to M.

Yes, as with common sense we will be sending troops into their country, but since the enemy is blockading us, surely they would have prepared themselves for this?

Also, I believe "I" will benefit in the short run from the closure of MOS. The next free waterway into Asia will be Sunda Strait.

Originally posted by maurizio13

Yup. Thats why my Enemy Mission 1 is a Naval Blockade. Time is definitely on our Enemies side in the region.

Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:

Nice one...Breaking the Total Defence Strategy. I think that TD strategy only looks nice on paper though. Cant really see it work effectively during wartime.

But I dont think our communications can be broken so easily though, coz most of the cables and lines are all placedunderground. Destroying the above-ground centres is possible though.

ispyyy SG

Ya... tat will give an excuse for americians to step in...
Strait of Malacca is a very important international route

ispyyy SG

Well... there r many ways to attack Singapore...

But I guess the first step to attack Singapore is to build up their own country... Or else, ways to attack Singapore is really limited lor... There is not much to talk about... And perhaps, if Singapore's neighbouring countries strenghten up themself till great economic and military influrence in the region, it is not difficult to let Singapore submit to them without a fight....

NewAge SG

1.) Both Singapore and Indonesia (the nearest country to SOM) will not give u a chance to fully mine the Malacca straits.

2.) The countries that i list out will surely attack u for what u are doing is destroying their life line. Past grudges can always be settled latter but u destroying my economy means that u are their no. 1 enemy. Dont forget countries might actually take this chance to flew their military might.

3.) Bombing of Singapore will be stupid thanks to various foreigners located in Singapore. U can only ignore that if u have an alliance and that might mean WW3. Singapore have a small airspace so defending will be rather easy however u are also able to mount a massive offensive at the airbases. Thanks to Aus, majority of our fighters are not located locally therefore u can never destroy all our fighters.

4.) U might blockade the causeway but to do that u need to move a huge amount of troops which can be easily spotted. I will surely launch a preemptive strike by sending the guards and 1 batallion of infantry and Armour directly to KL while the rest secure J and even M if possible. I will only secure the cities and pipe lines. An offensive will also be launch at the nearest airbase.

5.) Get a UN resolution on M.

maurizio13 SG

That's why Singapore cannot just maintain the troops in Singapore and defend the sea lanes, because if the sea lanes are threatened our trade will be affected. Enemy could play hit and run naval blockade, as long as there is a threat to ships, no ships will travel here.

To really stop the naval blockade, you need to launch an offensive into the enemy's territory. Then we have to look at who the potential enemy is, geographical locations as to the type of military installations situated there and the regions boost to our long term strategic defence against that enemy.

Then again, the straits of malacca is vital to global trade, so not many countries would want to see a war happen here.

<Precious> SG

Terrorist alert! Shocked Shocked

CM06 SG

*yawn*

If you guys are so bored try using the non master hand.

ray243 SG

Please...I know war isn't as simple as a game of RTS.

But the problem is this is a military NUTS forum...there is no reason we need to be sane right? Wink

Herzog_Zwei SG

Originally posted by ray243:

Please...I know war isn't as simple as a game of RTS.

But the problem is this is a military [b]NUTS forum...there is no reaseon we need to be sane right? Wink [/b]

Also depends on whether the enemy is willing to sacrifice in order to gain the land or wipe Singapore out of existence from world map.

abao SG

Although the forum is named Military Nuts, its still advisable to exercise some levels of sanity, otherwise, whichever thread is started can be closed by just 1 word: nukes Neutral

Then there's no room for discussion in the first place.

storywolf SG

Dumb Dumb dumb !!!!

Mine the straits of malacca ? Hello singapore got 4 minesweepers also some new technology - they can easily clear the straits !!!

Establish a fleet ? with what - a fleet of sampans is it ?

abao SG

Thanks for the flak. Proves that I have much more to learn.

Wikipedia:
The cost of producing and laying a mine is usually anywhere from 0.5% to 10% of the cost to remove it, and it can take up to 200 times as long to clear a minefield as to lay it. Parts of some World War II minefields still exist, because they are too spread out and expensive to clearand theoretically, some of these mines might stay active for hundreds of years.

Yes, we have minesweepers with modern technology. But I dont believe 4 minesweepers can clear an entire Strait in days or weeks.

Wikipedia:
In naval warfare, a fleet in being is a naval force that extends a controlling influence without ever leaving port. Were the fleet to leave port and face the enemy, it might lose in battle and no longer influence the enemy's actions, but by simply remaining safely in port the enemy is forced to continually deploy forces to guard against it. A fleet in being can be part of a sea denial doctrine but not one of sea control

Keep old but battle worthy ships in the harbours. Of course not sampans lar. Something like 1 LST, 3 DD and 3 Missile Gunboats for per fleet in the region. Put it in port and allocate adeqate AA defense and Air Cover to prevent air strike.

Darkness_hacker99 SG

To attack Singapore, I'll go with the Biowarfare Anthrax, Ebola strains and/or Sarin attack. Delivery the pay load over Singapore Land using UAV.

Leads to panic within the citizens, low morale in army. And till one point that army personnel is required to assist in civilian, this is when they'll be low in defense.

Next I'll deploy E-bomb using EMP to disable all electronic equipment within the area of Singapore.

This will cause communication breakdown. Affects the aircrafts, radar, etc.

Concurrently, I'll sent Tomahawk Long Range Missiles to eliminate the Navy defenses, key command buildings and Infrastructures of Singapore.

Next I'll sent in a Squadron of Aircrafts to eliminate military planes on the ground.

Then I'll sent leaflets by planes, this is propaganda.. Affecting the morale of citizens and military servant.

Lastly, I'll open a channel for Singapore to admit defeat.

Alvin.Yeoh SG

Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:
To attack Singapore, I'll go with the Biowarfare Anthrax, Ebola strains and/or Sarin attack. Delivery the pay load over Singapore Land using UAV.

Leads to panic within the citizens, low morale in army. And till one point that army personnel is required to assist in civilian, this is when they'll be low in defense.

[b]Next I'll deploy E-bomb using EMP to disable all electronic equipment within the area of Singapore.

This will cause communication breakdown. Affects the aircrafts, radar, etc.

Concurrently, I'll sent Tomahawk Long Range Missiles to eliminate the Navy defenses, key command buildings and Infrastructures of Singapore.

Next I'll sent in a Squadron of Aircrafts to eliminate military planes on the ground.

Then I'll sent leaflets by planes, this is propaganda.. Affecting the morale of citizens and military servant.

Lastly, I'll open a channel for Singapore to admit defeat. [/b]

You do know that to generate an EMP field large and powerful enough to knock out electronics in Singapore, the blast is probably big enough to flatten Singapore already. Moreover, I believe that most critical electronics are already hardened against EMP so would have minimal to no effect on them. And lastly, there currently isn't a viable air-deliverable EMP device yet due to the size of the damn thing.

As to using biowarfare, are you use you want to do that? Considering how damn virulent those things are, they might just spread and hit your own guys.

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