hhmm...lets develop a more complex view for discussion sake ..Lets
see......
We may not be able to get element of surprise.
first we are small island so lack of depth to hide if we enmass
forces chances is that enemy will know. If we fly, southern island
early warning system will detect. So to over come the element of
surprise. You need elite forces to blow up what needs to be blow
up. You need some troops to be in these island so that whatever
forces in the island will not post a threat to mainland sing.
Let`s develope this further..urm..and add a bit of logic to it.
The closeness of countries in this region means that surprise is
something they would have to dispense with. Speed means more. And
in that regard, we can certainly mobilise faster than any of the
countries here. Much much faster. Since you must certainly have
been in the SAF, you will know the time which we would need to
mobilize to start moving north.
Before moving northward you need to content with the south. It is
reasonable to assume that 3rd party will parachute to JB to support
its friends. Done it before on our national day.
It is also reasonable to assume that we need to protect southern
flank before pushing north. So you would need Navy to block the
south to prevent reinforcement.
Let`s see what have we got. Will the southern flank be
unprotected? Obviously not. Can the navy prevent a southern
invasion assuming they(Indons) have the capability to
invade(transport) in the first place(which they dont) while
supporting the northward thrust. The answer is a resounding
`yes'.
And to tell you the truth, it is not reasonable to assume that
Indonesia would assist Malaysia in an event of a conflict. I do not
discount the possibility of some fanatical groups in Indonesia
using the event to rally thier cause. But for a 3rd party to go to
war for another country`s sake is another matter? For starters,
there is not even a treaty or alliance between the two countries.
In fact, there are friction and suspicion between the two as far as
territories are concerned. The other question which begs to be
answered is whether Indonesia has the capability and resources to
go to war. Answer:No. This would be sacrificing decades of
growth.
Further, we saying that indonesia would get involve is tantamount
to saying the US would get involve and we all know how that will
end.
While all these are happening. RSAF will be contented with Migs29,
Hawk, SU30. with R-77 (that is if they are maintained and trained)
to gain air superior in the first day of war. hopfully they expand
their R-77 to our F-5 and not on our F-16. If they will try to take
out our airborne early warning. That will be devastated as first
see first Kill will be out.
Now, this does not make sense. The RSAF has more jets than both
two countries combined. Secondly, just about how many equipment can
they surge at a moment`s notice given thier smallish air-forces and
poor maintanence. We only have ten fingers. For example, can
Malaysia put all 8 hornets in the air at a moment`s notice. Again,
the answer is a no.
Up till now, the RMAF is not known to possess the R-77 yet.
Secondly, the Russians are known to up the ante on the actual
capabilities of thier equipment. This is as opposed to the
Americans who prefer to state actual performance and with combat
experience to boot. Just look at the development cycle of the
Amraam.
The `mothballed'
Migs do not carry R-77 without modifications. The Hawk trainers definitely do not
carry R-77s. The same goes for the Hornets. It will be a turkey
shoot if the RMAF goes up against the RSAF.
And why on earth would a fighter jet see an AEW/AWACs aircraft
first? The latter won`t be flying alone. And they will be guiding
other friendly jets in the skies as well.
while all these are happening, Astros will be raining down on our
enmass forces given that they might already know where we hide. But
we might not be able to take out their astros because it is beyond
our artillary range. What is left is our air forces to conduct
search and destroy their launches. [quote]
Ah..another one of the ridiculous Astross argument. Why? For
lack any better points or more accurately equipment I suppose. The
Astross cannot be used as an element of surprise. You would need to
mobilize the rest of the armed forces first so there goes the
surprise and since Singapore mobilizes faster than you can group
your forces, the Astross would be long gone since. The Singaporean
invasion would already have started. Imagine driving your Astross
within range and firing without mobilizing the MAF. Does not make
sense does it? The RSAF would be destroying any and every critical
element of the MAF at the mere sign of war.
And why on earth would we be using artillery to take out artillery
when we have other long range weapons? In the first place, the
Malaysian Astross rockets are
In the mids of all these activities you need to launch D-day style
seaborne assult on the north.
You think SAF command and logistics is strong enough to support 2
front?
once element of suprise is gone i think it will take more than 6
days to wrap up.
Why would it be a D-day style seaborne assault? Just hop to the
straits of Johor or take a look at the map. That river can be
crossed in no time. And with Singapore controlling the air, there
will be minimum resistance as well.
I have already answered your point about having a two front war.
Anyway, you have unwittingly summed up the main issue here. The MAF
is totally out-gunned and out-numbered that the only viable
scenario would be for it to drag someone else into its war with
Singapore. So, thank you very much.
