RSN LSTs large enough to take Leopard tanks?

Shotgun SG

I do not believe the Leo2s or any other MBTs would roll off into a beach like that. If the 60ton monstrosity really sinks, its gonna be hell to recover it.

Already the MBT nay-sayers are questioning whether the MBT would survive in the local mud, and we want to try putting it the water with all the easy sand?

If the MBTs do come in from the LSTs, its gonna be sent int on barges or at least unloaded to a temporary pontoon pier.

spartan6 SG

E Leopard 2A4 can ford up 2 4M with snorkel

tankee1981 SG

Originally posted by Shotgun
I do not believe the Leo2s or any other MBTs would roll off into a beach like that. If the 60ton monstrosity really sinks, its gonna be hell to recover it.

Already the MBT nay-sayers are questioning whether the MBT would survive in the local mud, and we want to try putting it the water with all the easy sand?

If the MBTs do come in from the LSTs, its gonna be sent int on barges or at least unloaded to a temporary pontoon pier.

I think what Shotgun is refering to is the soft sea sand at beaches. Yes, the Leo2A4 can ford up to 4m with snorkel but that also have to depend on the hardness of the sea bed. If it is too soft the heavy MBT will still sink, with snorkel and all.

Fairyland SG

Hmm, it will be a most innovative arrangement indeed. So IF it indeed beaches...how will it pull itself out? I have not seen any stern anchor and the like. Very interesting.

Edit: Just to add, from my understanding beaching is a rather difficult task and needs constant practise to perfect. Wonder how it's done now?

Shotgun SG

Beach during low tide and pull out when the tide comes in. Amphibious landings requires meticulous planning.

spartan6 SG

Well we might see the reactivation of e tiger 40 hovercraft Neutral

datafuser SG

Here are a few pictures of an Australian Leopard 1 MBT landing from a USN LCAC.

http://www.defence.gov.au/talisman_sabre/images/gallery/20050601a/index.htm

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25417

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25457

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=25459

Cheers,
Sunho

datafuser SG

Three pictures here show how the bow ramp was/is used.

HMS Boxer, one of just three fast (18 kts) LSTs, with its bow ramp extended on Salerno beach in September 1943. Although faster than more numerous LST(3)s, which appeared on the right, it took 13 minutes to extend the ramp at worst.

The USN's LST-1179 Barnstable County in Nordbynes, Norway on 1st March 1981 during the NATO exercise Cold Winter.

RSS Persistence on 1st January 2005.

Cheers,
Sunho

equlus84 SG

How abt ST designing something like a larger roofed RPL that can carry around8-10 MBT solely for MBT transporting type of ship?

Shotgun SG

How about, “Beam us down, Scotty?”

Pitot SG

If the LCAC can fit into the LSTs.

I think a similar local version like the tiger will be the easiest solution.

Fairyland SG

Perhaps a snorkelling Leo2 with the trackway below (mounted on a bedford truck):

http://www.armyvehicles.dk/bdmjp2col.htm -> (underwater bridge! Maybe even a submarine concrete pontoon that is positioned stealthily before the crossing)

Would alleviate the situation I believe.

Fairyland SG

I still think there is a requirement to bring the beach(pontoons) to the Endurance LST rather than the ship actually beaching to offload.

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