Power Zone: Top 10 Tanks

last SG · 2006-12-29T01:24:18+00:00

Actually the guns on any of those mentioned MBTs will have no trouble penetrating the armour of that land ship, and given that thing is little more then a mo...

fudgester SG

Actually, from what I've read, it can burn either kerosene, petrol, or diesel. Quoting from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams

The tank can be fueled with diesel fuel, kerosene, any grade of MOGAS (motor gasoline), or JP-4 or JP-8 jet fuel; the U.S. Army uses JP-8 jet fuel in order to simplify logistics.

That said, the biggest issue that the Abrams has is definitely its gas turbine. It high-temperature exhaust makes it difficult for infantry to run behind it for protection in urban areas.

It also has a high rate of fuel consumption. Heck, you need 40 liters of fuel just to start up the turbine. Laughing

SpecOps87 SG

Yikes...40L just to get it running? OMFG...

spawnoflight SG

The M1 Abrams gas turbine is designed primarily to use diesel or kerosene -based fuel and only use petrol fuel during an emergency.

I think you are wrong.A first hand account by witness Lieutenant Mike Drury ,Platoon leader,1st armoured division says that they could take out the T-62s and T-72s even when they were shooting right at them.And that the M1 could outdistance the T-72s by 1000m(3280ft) (I said hundred in a previous post).

zenden9 SG

M1A1 rank so highly? American propaganda at work again.. Please,Please… don’t believe American media. Those Iraq Army are not even fit fighting. Use them as example of M1A1 supremacy is absurd!

spawnoflight SG

Then which tank you thing should be the best ??

zenden9 SG

Leopard A6,the most favour tank in europe. If challenger is that good,it shall be the europe tank. If M1A1 is so good,it shall be the europe tank too since it is part of NATO...but it did not!

Trust a German Tank and it will not went wrong.

Trust a German sub and u will be save.... Wink

fallin SG

Trust a German man and you get THE most destructive conflict in the 20th century Laughing

spawnoflight SG

You can't judge a tank just because it is not in service with europe.How would you explain both were send to the frontlines against iraq?

gary1910 SG

You're wrong.

Yes, one the reason is due to cheap surplus tank from Germany but another part especially the newly built one is becos the Germany Leo 2 beat the other Nato tanks like M1 amd Chally etc to win the selection for example Netherlands, Switzerland,Sweden,Spain and Greece has newly built Leo 2.

These nations have chosen Leo 2 instead of other tanks becos they believe Leo 2 is the best tank for them.

spencer99 SG

Another factor is that the tanks probably won't last so long in combat anyway...

many of them might even be destroyed before firing a shot....

During WW2, "optics" as part of a gunsight is very valuable.

Pitot SG

got various shows of top ten tanks, got one saying leo 2 is the best oso.

spencer99 SG

the British prefer to use HESH rounds(see below). As HESh round has a better anti-material quality then APFSDS and can knock a bigger hole in walls and bunkers etc.... for HESH rounds, rifling is required. and if i am not wrong Chal-2's gun has better accuracy then the M1.

you can still fire a APFSDS with a riflled gun, but its effectiveness is not as good when fired from a smoothbore gun.

Although for "accuracy" there are other factors, eg "optics" esp when firing at extreme range and also the range gauging capability (laser??)

and also training of the gun crew esp shooting under combat condition or at moving targets...

It is not a "straight" comparision between smooth-bore and rifled gun when comparing M1 and Chal-2 because ohter then the "gun" there are other factors involved.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

It depends on what you are using the tank for, different tanks provide different things.

After much debate, when it comes to the top five- Abrams, Chally, Leopard, LeClerk and Merkava it's pretty much a crapshoot and depends on what you are going to use the tank for. Some armies will find a certain design the best for them and others are going to find another design better.

If you don't have a ton of fuel to burn like the yanks and find the issues of using and keeping a DU armour package not really your cup of tea... then the M1 is probably not for you. If you want a tank that really slugs it out in FIBUA and can carry it's own infantry support to boot, Merky is a good idea. It's really hard to say which tank is the best for this or that, but in the end the top five are pretty much there.

I think why we are getting the Leo2A4 has a lot to do with it's cost to run, general quality of design (which is really great for the price), and the fact that we can get it quite quickly from the Jerries.

And yes, the Abrams does not normally run on gasoline.

laurence82 SG

Er, actually this show, if you notice, are based on tanks that have seen battles

Hence also the Fear Factor

Shown for umpteen times in Discovery

Its more like a list of battle proven tanks

Shotgun SG

Both the Challenger 2 and the M1A2 uses Chobham. The M1A1HAs and A2s have an additional layer of DU in their armor. It increases protection rating and weight as well.

Rifled vs Smoothbore.
Mainly a difference in doctrine. The British prefers to use their HESH rounds as anti-armor and anti-fortification round. Hence they retain the rifled gun for superior accuracy when using the HESH.

The rifled gun loses effectiveness with other rounds such as the APFSDS and HEAT. Spin imparted on the long rod penetrator reduces the accuracy and penetration ability to the APFSDS I think. As for the HEAT, a spin on the HEAT round would cause the explosive stream to break up, losing penetration ability critically. Hence, when firing these rounds from the rifled gun, the rounds themselves are encased in another casing that spins while the actual round within does not. That spells, higher manufacturing costs for the rounds. Rifled guns themselves require more maintenance.

As for the Smoothbore, they handle the APFSDS and HEAT as they are with great accuracy as well. However, most armies using smoothbore guns for their tanks do not use HESH rounds as primary anti armor rounds.

PS: Notice no french tanks were mentioned in the Top 10.

zenden9 SG

That is why we have an overall score for the best tank.. Just like T-34 is regarded as best tank in WWII althought it did not possess the best gun ,best amrour and best mobilities..

But in terms of overall performances like armour,speed and firepower plus mainatenance,Finally usage in all consider terrain and situation. LeopardA6 can be regarded as best tank presently....

fudgester SG

I wonder why this is the case.

How does the LeClerc fare against other modern tanks?

M551Sheridian SG

got ppl mention me at the first page ar??? the missile shooting tank…

Lance_han SG

actually, i believe total number of tigers produced during the entire war was about 1300..? Neutral

SpecOps87 SG

Leo2 has the highest speed amongst all the other MBTs currently available in the market right? But really curious, why didn’t SAF pick the Merkava, given that the Merkava’s high emphasis on crew safety? And the fact that they could mount a motar within the tank,making it a pretty well all rounded tank.

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