Anti-Tank Guided Missile

SpecOps87 SG

Preference of guided of fire and forget missiles? In my post dated last year, many have said that the SPIKE is fire and forget,however just wondering in this day and age is there any counter-measures for fire and foget ATGMs?

Also,are there ATGM platforms out there which are guided but not by wire,probably optically or by laser etc.?

Thanks in advance

ah san SG

the spike is oredi optical guided...as for laser guided i heard abt it but haf not really seen it officially.

as for counter measures for fire and forget ATGM i believe ERA on the armour vehicles could still manage to 'defend' quite well Rolling Eyes

dork3d SG

But nowaday, ATGMs come with TANDEM head... ERA also has their limitations...

SpecOps87 SG

SPIKE considered optically guided meh? Cuz from what I know, its machiam fire and forget leh.

siaokao SG

Yes, SPIKE is optically guided. There is a CCD or Thermal Imager in the noise. The missile uses the optical imager to capture and guide itself into the selected target.

ah san SG

yes it is optically guided , although it is fire and forget u can still change and update the target via the optical camera in the warhead Cool

gary1910 SG

Hellfire AGM-114K is a laser guided ATGM, as well as the Mokopa etc , quite a lot of them.

One way to counter them is by way of softkill APS with RWR + smoke grenade, or decoys, and electro-optical signals, infrared or laser jamming etc

To counter this countermeasure is by not lasing directly at the target initially, but say a few metres in front of target, only "paint' it , say the ATGM is abt to close in , so let as little time as possible for target to activate it's countermeasure.

Spike is optically guided by fibre optics as well as by TI, to counter perhaps softkill APS with RWR + smoke grenade, but there is very little reaction time , making it worse by the loft trajectory of a top attack ATGM.

Therefore softkill APS will be quite difficult counter modern ATGM, Hardkill APS with MW radar plus some kind projectile to intercept incoming ATGM.

Read abt APS from here:

http://www.defense-update.com/features/du-1-04/soft-kill-intro.htm

lionnoisy SG

Spike firing from all angles,very good at Finland. Re fresh if cant see.

Spike story,
www.tealgroup.com/samples/sample-wmb.pdf

Singapore
In late 1999, it was announced that
Singapore had become the first customer
for the Spike-LR. No details on
the scope of the order were released.
Singapore Technologies Dynamics
has set up a joint venture with Rafael
called Smart Systems Pte. Ltd, to
manufacture the Spike locally for
Asian requirements.

3.ST making SPIKE verg big file
http://www.stengg.com/investorelations/pdf/transformbetteralignment.pdf

zheshi SG

Spike came with Tamdem warhard, which mean ERA offer no protection against it.

SpecOps87 SG

What about any active counter-measures? ERA is more of like a reactive counter-measure.

beavan SG

i don't think they will be out anytime soon. u mean something like putting out bullets aimed at the missle?

SpecOps87 SG

Perhaps..but more importantly something which can jam the missile's guidance