Machine gun shoot - Texas Style

last SG · 2006-06-01T16:43:41+00:00

the wood looks real to me, probably the owner sand it real good and finish it real well! thus you get the kind of "sissy" looking woof grain! That is a nic...

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ouch.

Moonstriker SG

will remember to give u a buzz if i’m gonna go there

Meia Gisborn SG

Dave,

I notice the large amount of spent cases on the ground in your image, and am just curious about your range's policy with regard to brass clean-up/removal. Are range users expected to pick up their own brass after a shooting session?

moca SG

Aren't you guys glad you did National Service - all that free ammo?

Dave, the best experience I had with shooting in the army are the night firing with tracers and illumination from mortars and other handheld flare devices.

Are you able to purchase tracer ammo and other illum ordnance? What about smoke grenades? Can you buy those?

What can't you buy in Texas? There has to be a limit, right?

Can you buy a 20mm anti-aircraft cannon? A old US 60mm mortar? M203 grenade launcher? Can you buy AP ammo for the Browning?

Also, there seemed to be no restriction on where you discharge your weapons and also no regulations on transportation? It seems you can just put 2 GPMGs and one HMG at the back of a pickup truck and drive around. So what if one decides to drive around a pickup truck with a mounted GPMG, is that allowed?

To be honest, this concept of civi owning GPMGs is not something I can understand. But if I were in Texas like you, I would slowly ponder this question while cleaning the tripod-mounted FN MAG in my front garden. : )

ChineseJunk SG

As for the camoflage! yes thats the Swiss Alpine Camo! it is like $10 for the shorts ! the Marine MArpat isabout $30 for the set of uniform!

DaveC[/b]

Wah $10 for the berms (S$15.80, cheaper than Samuel & Kelvin and the real deal too Mr. Green ) and $30 for Marpat is a good deal. Where u buy? Base PX? Any clothing chain?

davechng SG

Hi Meia

for spent cases, since the shooting area is a flood zone! few times a year the range is actually underwater ! so that clears the brass away! I do ppick up 5.56 , 30.06, .45 or 7.62 cases if they are boxer prime. some freind go pick up those brass and sell them for scrap! good money too!

HO Moca

Yes! I enjoyed my National service ,, back in the late 80s! am in 5th SIR! did quite a few big Battalion or Brigade live firing! Free ammo is really a good thing except in SAF! or during my time, they can make the most enthusiats people with the most exciting skills like shooting and marksman a real chore. and make it a real takan session.

Yes! We can buy tracers , infact I load my own tracers becasue it is cheaper that way! factory tracers are very expensive ! I like 30 caliber tracers becasue you can see them better.... I shoot them on my 7.62 or 30.06 rifles. AP round is kind of a harsh harsh thing becasue they are not politically correct. However, AP bullets are avialaible to be bought ! So! I do load AP rounds ... HOwver, as we know the M855, SS109, russian 7n6 5.45 ammo which is avialbale to be bought has AP quality..

Biggere caliber like the 40mm grenande launcher , 60mm motar can be bought but they are consider distructive device. So! each round has a $200 stamp fee for the CLass 3 weapons registration!

However, 84mm or RPG-7 type weapons are not available to be bought!HOwitzers or anything like that is not available!

As for driving around with a class 3 ( machine gun) in your truck would not be recommended... although if you do have the proper papers, the police cannot arrest you unless you are pointing your weapons on people and create a civil unrest! AGain! I have seen reenactment where you see APC or jeeps with 30 caliber browning machine gun! but these people is on convoy and are on a reenactment type activities!

YEs! I Love the GPMG or they call it the M240B here in the US! Miss the days when we do my GPMG course in the unit and safti! Good weapon ! make the M60 machine guns looks like toys and a joke.

I also love the Ulitmax 100 ... its light weight ! But except for the stupid drum! I don;t think it work as well as the M249 belt! as a SAW the feeding system on the U100 is questionable ! All drums don;t do well in the field ! My freind that is in Iraq have so much problems with the Beta mags!

DaveC

davechng SG

HI ChineseJunk!

is the military surplus a big thing in Singapore??? I never know you guys like all these Camoflage stuff! IS there shops that sells these in Singapore???? HOw much interest is in the SIngapore market??

IN Dallas TX we have a lot of good military surplus that sometimes stock NATO stuff .... the MARPAt marines is not avialbel to the civilians.... however you can get it used from MArines that would sell it for good old CASH!I am lcuky to be in a Marine base in Quantico VA, and the MArine exchange his uniform set for nothing ! Was trying to get the MARPAT desert too!

As for the Army ACU and mulitcam camo.. those are avaialble to the civilians ! Youy can buy brand new ones in the Army surplus store!

DaveC

ETboy SG

wah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked like u got most of the " toy " in BF2

Shotgun SG

I believe i saw woodlands marpat available in Singapore. Not too steep.. like SGD$60 for the pants, alone.

Dallas is a nice city to be in. Was there last year. I noticed the fire truck had a certain habit of blaring its siren at a particular time in the morning while heading out. Urgent breakfast run?

Meia Gisborn SG

Mr. Green

Doesn't get more convenient than that: shoot all you want and let Mother Nature take care of the clean-up! Laughing

At our club range, brass clean-up is 'self-policing' in that members are required to pick up all of their brass after shooting. Most members are pretty good about observing this rule, but there'll be the occasional a$$hole who'll pick up only a token amount of his brass and then leave. Mad

moca SG

In SAF, we are required to pick up all our blanks and empty cartridges at the range or at live firing.

Especially picking up blanks is the worst cos usually you fire blanks in the forest during assault so they are really hard to find afterwards. Don't help either that they are black coloured plastic.

Live firing is usually done - for us infantry anyway - in open areas for safety reasons so the cartridges are easy to find. And they are shiny brass.

As also happens a lot of folks will just pick up a token amount but the instructors got smart and demand at least 80% recovery of the entire stock spent. We don't get to leave until we meet that quota.

I can understand you have to pick up the plastic blanks as they are completely non-biodegradable but I wonder what SAF does with the spent brass cartridges? Can they be reloaded or melted down?

One thing that is recurring problem with the spent cases be they blanks or live, is that people kept slipping on them. At the range at 300m where it is hard cement floor, I've seen a lot of guys slip and fall on empty brass especially when they are climbing the cament stairs into fox holes. Also udring FIBUA especially at night lots of guys would slip and fall or twist their ankles on empty cartridges on the floor.

moca SG

Speaking of blanks, do you guys in the US use blanks much? What does a blank round in the US look like? What blanks do Hollywood uses? Especially on GPMG's where you can actually see the belted rounds, they look very real, unlike our SAF 7.62mm GPMG blanks which has an ugly-looking squashed head.

Our black plastic 5.56mm blanks are surely the worse shxt in the world, being really underpowered and prone to double feeding, and fouling the gas pipes and chamber reall badly. And worst, you need change the muzzle to this silly-looking nob with a little hole. Onn the Ultimax you need to attach this red thing that closes off the muzzle.

Those used in Hollywood look great. Fist of all, they are brass cartridges and they seem to be able to fire full-auto without problem. And secondly, they don't need any changes to the muzzle.

Shotgun SG

Go hike around macritchie and tell me if SAF is really that on the ball about picking up their spent blank cartridges. In some areas, they are all over the place!!

moca SG

Ah, MacRitchie is mostly CDO training area, right. So go complain to CDO.

Also, a lot of the blanks from very long ago.

Moonstriker SG

got ah? *goes to hike*

moca SG

hehehe... Very Happy

Meia Gisborn SG

Just for grins and giggles, pick up a few spent cases at Macritchie and discreetly drop them on the ground in a crowded place like a hawker center or bus depot. Then retire to a safe distance and watch the fun ensue. Mr. Green

davechng SG

No! we do not use blanks ! really have no use unless it is use for show! I think airsoft or paintball does a better training tool! NOw we use simunitions! but simunition is very expensive and it is only available for the law enforcements for most rifle simunition cartrdiges! ! and needs quite extensive modifications to the weapons.

Even in my time in SAF! we are required to pick up blanks from training area ! best part is at one time they get so anal about blanks that right after an ambush! we have to stop the excercise and pick blanks! Kind of felt so stupid!!

DaveC

davechng SG

shooting by the river this weekend in the range!

DaveC

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