Unrest in Timor Leste

last SG · 2006-05-28T04:44:46+00:00

Oh, shut the fu.ck up you whining, pathetic loser.

nightzip SG

All these are making singaporean soldiers busy... Laughing

LazerLordz SG

What better way than to practise humanitarian diplomacy than by sending peacekeepers and medical teams.

It's all about goodwill and neighbourliness.

Arthas79 SG

Singapore is not in the business of flag waving exercises. If others would doubt our deployment capabilities, just have a look at our overseas deployments.

If any particular country can base thier prowess on a miniscule or small military contribution, then clearly, that country is starved for lack of pride and confidence in thier military. Clearly, a particular country, more known for bizzare statements and an equally bewildering or confusing(or confused)foriegn policy, if not minister, is more powerful than Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc since she has troops on the ground. Utter nonsense.

I agree with a previous poster who mentioned that East Timor serves no strategic value to Singapore. She`s too far away. She can offer us nothing in return for our help. That is prolly why we don`t even have an embassy there. As it happened, the East Timorese government appealed for help from nations which had formal diplomatic ties(embassies) with the infant government. In addition, they would not want countries too close to Indonesia within thier borders during such precarious times too.

I don`t think an independant East Timor is a viable entity. East Timor remains a future battle-ground between the Aussies and Indonesians. Another baggage to a whole list of problem shouldered by ASEAN. In fact, ASEAN does`nt really care. Smart nations who want to be in Indonesia`s group of close friends would stay away unless it does`nt affect relations or they have good strategic reasons to do so. Of course, some nations are`nt that smart anyway.

monoslayer SG

sg wun send troops so soon one lah.. wait for other countries to settle the rebels den when everything stable liao, we go clear up the mess.. all wayang lah.. take photos of our boys helping villages, carry babies, etc.. everything okie liao den pack up n come back.. ppl on top can look forward to collect awards n badges..

Chelzea SG

send our regulars Mr. Green

beavan SG

ADF Twisted Evil

moca SG

Originally posted by Arthas79:
I don`t think an independant East Timor is a viable entity. [/b]

My sentiments exactly.

moca SG

STFU. You are not doing any fighting yourself so stop whining.

moca SG

Why don't you go? Don't just "support" sending other people.

FiReDuKe SG

No offense meant,but while I support the sending of peacekeepers n would go if asked,I failed to see how gaining battle experience shld be part of the equation.After all,it’s a PEACEKEEPING mission.If fighting is needed,that means that the shit has well and truly hit the fan n the focus shld have been to bring the situation under control as soon as possible.

nightzip SG

i dun mind go there, help them rebuild buildings or carry babies or give the kids sweets. Cool Razz

siaokao SG

True, peacekeepers are there to keep the peace but fighting may be required (thats why all armed). The experience of being in an environment with possible live rounds firing at you is very different. I think this kinda "live" experience is important for us all.

I volunteered my service the last time, but they dun wan me. Embarassed

LazerLordz SG

They said the same thing about Singapore and Israel. Timor has oil, one up from us.

moca SG

On what basis do you compare Singapore and Israel to E. Timor?

LazerLordz SG

only at the level of initial survival after independance.

they need a Dr Winsemius if they wish to prosper...

moca SG

Singapore was already a modern, relatively peaceful and well-run city by the time the Brits left. And the Brits left intact an efficient civil service and goernmental system and infrastructure.

Of the Jews who came from all over the world to build Israel, many were already successful bankers, lawyers, heads of businesses, former government officials, engineers etc. [b]Their ability to form a modern, well-run nation was never in doubt. The only thing that was in doubt was their ability to survive Arab attacks.

FiReDuKe SG

Pardon me if i sound much too jumpy at the prospect of fighting....It's juz dat i personally felt that when bullets start flying,the emphasis shld 've been on getting the situation under control....

MobyDog SG

Guys, let's be rational here.

The Timor rebellion is a suspected coup... and now news are saying that the people are now protesting against the current government for ineptness and corruption. The Government , in reality were placed in by the Australian, the rebel leader is Australian trained. The government says that they required "Foreign Troops" to maintain, and only "Foreign troops" can... which mean largely "Australians"

As soon as the Australian troops landed the fighting substantially die down. Now looting and gangs are roaming the streets. Isn't something not right here ?

As to the thought that Singapore would have a chance to get into the Oil/gas operation there is a Wet Dream.. it will go largely to Australia - Guarranteed. What Sg is operating there are small business, petrol stations, trading co and supermarkets... hardly worth the efforts.

While it's good to support against the violence there, one must know what politics are conspiring there.. the Australian forces are too strung up in their so-called "War on terror" escapade with the US... which is Imperialism. And I wonder if the current Timorese government and the Rebels are in it for the Australian... perhaps because the Chinese is starting the get prominent there... and may well dilute the Austarlian influence... just like what the Taiwan has done in Solomon Island, and has successfully removed China's economic influence there. Did you know that the Taiwanese and their businesses were protected by the Government, and only China's businesses were up in flames ??

|-|05| SG

Originally posted by digger:
"They are our good allies..we cannot just stand here and watch their houses burnt to ground. Am I right."

You did last time why should this be any different ?

"The last time US loaned the Aussie army 5000 flak jackets becuz the Aussies didnt have any."

Is that right ?

"everyone know's how good we are they just dont wanna admit it?"

Thats a bit like claiming a world boxing championship without ever having a fight.

Allies? I dont really remember us being real close to them. heck we dont even have an embassy there!

yes that is so.Austrialia was not really equiped for it.

And the world boxing championships are constantly given to people without every having to fight since most champions retire at their peaks.So your point is moot.

touchstone_2000 SG

You sound quite desperate. Do you want to be on the first flight out?

Remember they are still fighting each other. To stop the fighting you might have to shoot at BOTH sides. Then they come after you.

When soldiers (from any country) goes in, somebody's mother will start crying about a lost (dead) child.

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