Originally posted by |-|05|:
[b]I always thought they wanted the AWACS to paint and guide the
missiles with the F-22's just launching. Then again when they do
launch they expose themselves.
Why is loving the heat exhaust moot? I mean it did work in the
F117A.
I'm not sure about the rest though heh havent really kept up to
date on the program other then knowing they finally put 2 sqns out
hah[/b]
First of all... AWAC might not always be available or within
desired range. This tactic might only be safety employed in a third
world country and air superiority attained.. in most circumstances.
But then again US has only been invading and attacking Third world
countries anyway.
In a way, wouldn't that make the F22 dependence on AWACs, and this
really lower their range of capabilities and deployabilities ? If
the F22 only depends on AESA and missle technology.. wouldn't a
F16/18 do the same.. abide the RCS.
Why is loving the heat exhaust moot? I mean it did work
in the F117A.
Well, you see... super cruise or not.. there will be exhaust
plum. What I say is effectively ? which is impossible.. the heat
has go go somewhere and be converted to other form of energy, but
how to disperse this amt of heat in duration?
On the F117 variants, It's not a fighter at all.. it has not radar
nor targeting capabilties by itself. It depended on satelites and
AWAC guidance. AS I say, the F117 was deployed only in third world
countries where they do not face effective enemies SAM networks.
The F117 was detected by the British during GW1. Then, please
remember in the opening shots of the "Shock 'n' Awe" by the F117s
in Iraq. They were detected 20 mins before they released their
JDAMs. The Sirens were wailing for about 20 mins.. it just that
they had no sams to deal with it. (they SAM were totally destroyed
illegally by both british and US bombardments in the months ahead
of the invasion.. in the guise of protecting the no-fly zone
crap)
If the Iraqis and Serbians have the S200 and S300 variants
operational ( IF they have not been bombed by hundreds of
Fighter..) It might see the difference.
I'm not saying the F22 is a not a most modern fighter out there
now, but claims about it.. is ridiculous. It's just another fighter
with updated advance electronics( that runs in 16bit 
the last I heard) and lower RCS .. as it's advantage.
It don't even have an agile airframe.
I would say a 1:2 ratio against SU30mki or Typhoon is a more
realistic claim. And only if you consider a first launch chance in
BVR engagement. ( if their AAM are of equal technological level).
If both detects each other about the same time ( remember detection
and launching in effective range is two different things) then the
Ratio is 1:1.5. If against the British "Meteor" I would say it's a
fair challenge.
In other words, it would down to the BVRM and Radar (passive and
Phase)deployed.
