Atheists Unite!

last SG · 2006-11-27T11:43:47+00:00

is this about christians again? i read about them until v du lan liao. can change topic to what atheists actually believe?

stupidissmart SG

In general, atheists are generally just people who do not believe in a God or any spiritual force. And they are really not too concerned with discussion regarding religion and spirituality.

Atheist do not believe in god or spiritual force, doesn't means they r not concern with discussion regarding to religion and spirituality. A lot of people r not politician and not involved in politics, but they still like to talk about them

But it is just in this forum that certain individuals see people who adopt agressive and antagonistic stands against religion. The more appropriate word for such people would be anti-religionists.

Then in tat case can we say christians r anti-atheist because they also say tat atheist have no morals, they believe in evolution which is wrong and they all deserve to go to hell for not believing in christainity

SumOne SG

You missed the point. Either that or you're doing it again. I never said atheists cannot discuss about religion and spirituality. Read carefully before you start twisting the words of ppl again. I'll just assume you only read what you wanted to read.

Difference in ideology doesn't mean their anti-atheists or that they hate atheists. It's a different thing altogether to be aggressive against a person or a group of persons just because of ideology. I have non-Christian friends, buddhists, atheists, taoists, catholics, muslims, and we get along ok. Not believing in religion is one thing. Being anti-religion is a different thing.

To me, to just hate a person for difference in ideology makes him or her no different a militant muslim or a member of the ku klux klan.

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laurence82 SG

eh, tot this topic died out?

Shocked Shocked Shocked

SumOne SG

Apparently not. Or maybe it has, just replying SIS's post anyway.

laurence82 SG

u got too much time hor?

SumOne SG

That coming from you is ironic.

[email protected] SG

This topic's still alive. Shocked

laurence82 SG

precisely

i am the one supposed to have too much time

not you

Mad Mad

SumOne SG

Yes, just like how you're still around talking about smoking.

SumOne SG

Rolling Eyes

That would make you as the one with FAR too much time.

laurence82 SG

psstt, its now MLM, not smoking

laurence82 SG

actually i have been doing a lot of things

just that i am multitasking

kekekekek

SumOne SG

I think that's what a lot of ppl in sgforums do.

SumOne SG

Oh yeah, Yong Hui and his MLM.

laurence82 SG

fireice mostly

i used to stick around, but now i know how to multitask

a lot of tasks to do

laurence82 SG

who is yong hui?

Ito_^ SG

nus guy lor.. Laughing

stupidissmart SG

I think u have to read again. I never say tat u claim atheist can never talk about religion. I am saying tat atheist can enjoy discussing religion as any other people and there is no reason how u can conclude "they are really not too concerned with discussion regarding religion and spirituality."

Where do you get that idea? Then again, it is you afterall. That's what some atheist chinese say about the westerners too. Not saying what you're saying is correct though, because that is definitely WRONG!

Difference in ideology doesn't mean their anti-atheists or that they hate atheists. It's a different thing altogether to be aggressive against a person or a group of persons just because of ideology. I have non-Christian friends, buddhists, atheists, taoists, catholics, muslims, and we get along ok. Not believing in religion is one thing. Being anti-religion is a different thing.

Earlier u label people tat have "adopt agressive and antagonistic stands against religion" as "anti-religionists". But the christian who claims tat "atheist have no morals", "atheist deserve to go to hell" etc are simply different in ideology. Wow wat a double standard ! Wat makes u think tat your so call anti religionist do not mixed well with people with other religions ?

[email protected] SG

Also the MTL clerk in Heng Chun Camp last time. Wink

Hamiltonian1125 SG

Haiiiii...it is really difficult to prove the existance of God. This prove is not like any math proof. The reason math is so powerful because it is build on basic axioms and statements that are universally true, hence any proof in math is simply using these axioms or other theorems( which is also based on the axioms) to proof whether a statement is mathematically correct or wrong.
There is no fundamentally correct "axioms" to prove God do not exist nor to prove it exist. Sad to say, physicists dun even understand 95 % of the universe much less to say proving the existance of God. Even the well established theory of relativity hav difficulties in merging wif battle tested quantum mech...the diff lies in the main argument of relativity is that space and time are entangled with intimate relationship whereas in quantum mech, using variable seperable in partial diff eqn for schroodinger eqn SEPARATE time and space forming time INDEPT SE. Physicists hav lots of problems to solve rather than arguing senselessly the existence of God. Atheists out there, dun be overconfident...
Personally, I do believe in God but I dont believe in Christ, Allah and such. If there is no God, then who the heck in hell creates fundamental building particles like leptons(quarks, gluons etc). Of course, we should not account every strange phenomena to the doing of God and hence beyond our comprehension.If everyone is so superstitious, then the world will not improve and what God created are just a bunch of foolishly pious human. God give us a brain and this INDICATE God LOVES ppl who use their brains to tink and wanted us to discover nature by ourself, not thru bible, quran, old testament,buddhist scripture etc. I believe God lives in our heart and i believe God isnt that narcicisitic to such extent to condemn those who do not believe Him to hell( u noe what religionS i am refering to). There should be no restriction when we are doing scientific works. Dun ever say God do not want us to noe this or that. Cmon, God give us a brain to think and analyse, so use it for goodness sake.
As for theory of evolution, forgive me for my impudence and ignorance, I tink atheists should not use it as a proof for the nonexistance of God. It is still a theory and hence may be replaced. Quantum mech is a master piece of physicists, but physicists would still discard this beauty if there is a better theory that is more consistent and more reproducable in experiments. Who noes years later theory of evolution is being replaced by a better model. The true beauty of science lies in the ability to "upgrade" and a change for a better and more consistent understanding of our universe. Thus it is pretty narcicisitic for ppl to firmly believe that theory of evolution is definitely correct. In this case, isnt ur "faith" in theory of evolution akin to those blind followers of their respective religions???? Last but not least, physics is a "bible" that give the best explaination of our universe so far, not some lame scripture from all the world religions.

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