Singapore buys 2 Vastergotland Subs

riken1974 SG

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

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That's a pic of challenger class sub...not sodermanland

Arthas79 SG

Australia wanted longer endurance and time-spent at sea for thier subs. Given thier larger area of control and expeditious nature of thier forces tagged to US`s adventures overseas as it is, I think that`s the case. Don`t think we need something that large. Also, RSN is looking at the region and our naval assests as a whole and we match up and could reasonably overcome the threat posed by regional navies.

More importantly and not just the case of following a known but infrequent trend of buying second hand goods first, I suspect we are actually waiting for certain technologies to mature and than make our purchase. Say if we buy now, it`d be superseded by newer subs coming out next decade and it does`nt make cost sense to buy again. We`d be carving a small lead in naval war-fare to steal a mile in the future. So, we`d always be having the last laugh. We`d be good buddies with the Swedes by then.

lionnoisy SG

some photo of Swedish sub click here

lionnoisy SG

Vastergotland sub fr Janes Fighting Ships

Shotgun SG

Does it say how many blades on the screw, and how many screws it has?

lionnoisy SG

JDW 16.11.2005 reported that 2 incoming subs will be converted to
Södermanland Class A17S standard.

With the conversion of the Södermanland Class, the Swedish Navy will get two practically new submarines capable of operating for the next twenty years without further modernisation.

Of course ,they will be AIP equipped

Shotgun SG

hmmm they are one of the quietests subs ever, and they are gonna be ours!

Delta 5 SG

And they will come with DM2A4 heavyweight torpedos... Those things pack a big punch! Mr. Green

Shotgun SG

I rather we try experimenting something like the russian shvkal torpedo.

Delta 5 SG

Thats cool... A torpedo which moves in a 'capsule' of air and strikes at a speed unmatched by any torpedo today... Mr. Green

Shotgun SG

Yeap! Perfect for quiet subs. Get close enuff to let the shkval go, and the opposing sub may not even get a chance for a snapshot!

Super cavitation rocks!

Joe Black SG

Er..... not quite as simple as this leh...

Points to consider:

1. once you start flooding the torpedoes tubes and open those doors, they can be picked up by the enemy subs.

2. The Shkval uses high speed (200kts) to achieve a hit, assuming that the enemy cannot react fast enough to get out of the way. These torps are not like your normal active/passive torps which can do S curve runs or require lost contacts. At 200kts, the Shkvals are not going to hear much...

3. For a coastal attack, the Shkval is ideal. In open seas or ocean where the depths are far greater, the effectiveness of Shkval is yet to be proven.

Joe Black SG

Are we sure we are going with the German torps rather than the Swedish Torpedoes 2000? Don't forget the 400mm torps too!

Shotgun SG

Well like i said, when u have shkval, u'd want to get in so close that the opp sub has no time or room to manuever.

Its like hunting with 1 bullet... u don't shoot until u are sure it will hit and kill the target.

bismarck SG

fastergotland ?

Laughing

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