Girls should be made to serve SAF too

last SG · 2005-12-18T23:12:19+00:00

I have seen ah-lian a.k.a girls that deserve National Service 100 times more than the average guy on the street

Shotgun SG

Not every female has the aptitude to be good paramedics. hahaha. Later train out one really lousy one... wah... dats it.

tvdog SG

You think every male has the aptitude to be good soldiers?

tvdog SG

What has that got to do with anything?

Oh, you mean the old excuse that giving birth is national service enough already?

They serve NS at 18 - 20. At that age they shouldn't be giving birth.

ironoxideman SG

sounds spartan to me

Ito_^ SG

i dunnoe any "woman" wanna serve their country..

epImetheus SG

x 2 Very Happy

|-|05| SG

Yea and not all would wanna have children. Maybe giving them the option of either having kids or serving NS would scare more into having babies lol

Shotgun SG

Nope, not every male has the aptitude to be good combatants. Thats why some are drivers, clerks, storemen etc.

To be a good soldier, one only need to follow orders.

BUT to be a good paramedic or nurse, one needs a lot of training and a degree of smartness and alertness to do the right thing at the right time.

Also, imagine an inapt person being a medic. Wanna IV u also cannot find ur vein. Poke u 2 dozen times liao, ur arm become pin cushion liao still cant find. How?

Some ppl are just a bit slower and not as smart as others...

bcoy SG

All women from around the world, from America to Zimbabwe can give birth. This is a natural biological fact.
However, not all countries practice conscription or NS, which is a socio-political policy.
So women should not use the natural ability to give birth as a form of excuse to replace national duty, when not all men around the world serve in conscription. Its like comparing apples with oranges.
The effects of NS in Singapore is obvious - male and female attitudes are indeed different.

BillyBong SG

When that happens, male report sick rates will sky-rocket....abortion rates will rise astronomically and the suicide lines will be flooded with calls.

No tks...i prefer the demure, high maintenance SG girl, so there will always be one half of the population that whines more than their male counterparts. Mr. Green

tvdog SG

I said soldiers, not combatants. And soldiers include dirvers, clerks, storemen etc.

Wow, you've got it all figured out. "To be a good soldier, one ONLY need to follow orders." So simple one meh?

So does being a salesgirl at a department store, or a waitress. Your point? Besides, being a nurse doesn't mean you are able to help perform operations. Even among nurses, there are many different types.

The medic in my platoon, probably can't give anyone an IV either. And some riflemen in my reservist platoon have very low IQ. At 30 years old still don't know how to clear an IA and many can't pass their CTSS. The SAW gunners are all bobo kings. Should we abolish NS just because some people are "slower and not as smart as others"?

Shotgun SG

Since u know there ppl who are alreayd inapt at this kinda stuff, why expand the population by making all females train to be paramedics? U alr kao peh this kinda ppl cannot make it liao and u want SOME MORE? Whats the logic?

One does not need to have special talents to be a soldier. Tell me, wat kinda special talents does one need to lead a more disciplined and regimented life style? If a dog can also be trained in obedience school, a normal human being cannot learn how to be more disciplined in the army meh?

I've seen enuff examples in the army where ppl can actually stay out of trouble if they just shut up and do their job. Its those ppl that keng here keng there that make all the other ppl dulan.

Btw, the way u reply sounds too damn aggressive. Hence my above reply.

Hellraiza SG

i think the main gist of recommending women serving NS is to make them more grateful for what we have, not to take things in life for granted etc etc, while at the same time teaching them skills which will be helpful in times of trouble. tts my opinion what u guys think?

depressed SG

what piss me off is that some of the women whom obviously did not serve ns think they have the right to talk abt it and post letters in the newspapers and even dare to bitch about nsmen whiny like that female scholar. Let see who whines the most if these ppl get conscripted and i get to command them Laughing

personally conscription is a violation of rights and i am against it, be it men or women. But i will be extremely supportive of women like chng zhen zhi and lena soh to be conscripted Mr. Green

tvdog SG

If you don't agree, you don't agree. There's often more than one poiint of view.

ShrodingersCat SG

How about women who serve in volunteer welfare organisations, serving the under privileged? Do they not serve their country? and that's just one group of women.

Military National Service is just one form of serving the country.

While I do not think that making women perform Military National Service is the best or only way of enforcing empathy, understanding or patriotism, I do feel that women SHOULD have some form of enforced "National Service" in fields such as teaching, nursing, community work, volunteer work, etc.

It will help to make them better mothers, better partners and better citizens.

NavDv04 SG

Nonsense. So a guy needs just afew months to pass out as a combat medic and a girl needs afew years ? Shut up and sit down if you dont know how to use your brain.

NavDv04 SG

Great. You compared your dad to a dog. Well done dog boy ! Clap Clap.

[email protected] SG

but only fair wad. if u can serve NS at age 18-20, u can also give birth at later age like women. Laughing

[email protected] SG

that is a very good suggestion.

i think the problem is that, in this sad hell hole we call a nation and a society, people seemto have been brainwashed so severely that they all think military service is the ONLY way of serving a country. And that leads to severe jealousy about anyone who doesn't need to serve. If u have to serve, take it like a man, be gracious and stop whinning about making others who don't serve, serve. If its as good character building for u, then be happy you went thru it, feel sorry for those who didn't, and thats it. No need to keep being bitter about others who don't serve. I mean, if u are bitter about it, doesn't that just show it didn't really build character and that u're just lying about it? That, i believe, is called hypocrisy. Open your minds people. Service to a nation is more than just military service. And stop being bitter about those who don't have to serve. U are all just sounding more and more like programmed robots without the capacity for independent thought

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