hokkien in singapore and in taiwan

last SG · 2006-12-02T15:18:50+00:00

lols. no la. i major in chinese in my A levels. which i dropped for normal chinese later on. the tutor i had was the source of all this knowledge.. he's a fa...

Fog SG

hokkien in s'pore seems almost identical to tai yu in taiwan, so wheres the diff Rolling Eyes

Chelzea SG

u went taiwan be4 Mr. Green ??

gd gd ,i can migrate dere Cool

dragg SG

taiwanese speak min nan yu. we speaks fu jian yu.

TWE SG

The usage of the words are different in some ways . Even if you understand hokkien , does not mean u understand min nan yu lor . But can pick up easilly if you were to listen long enuff .

pinkish purple papayas SG

actually its about the same...most hokkien singaporeans and taiyu taiwanese share a common ancestry back in fuqian, where there are many variants of min nan yu.

just that taiwan broadcast and speak min nan as a communication langauge and culture...

Singapore govt slams min nan as a degortary language and tries its best to oppress people from speaking min nan language loh...

i would say taiwan's min nan langauge is more mainstream...compared to Singapore's lousy malay/english/rojak/min nan langauge..

Hokkien songs and hokkien drama FTW...lol... to hell with mandarin, its not even our "mother-tongue" in the 1st place... mandarin is just some dialect that was spoken up north in beijing, and we singaporeans being so pro-china have to follow them..

TYING SG

got difference in some words.
Like what in taiwanese one is sia mii, in singapore they say si mii.
Just learn that frm a friend.

FireIce SG

similar
not the same

Diehard_89 SG

then will they understand

mee siam mai hum?

or chai png no hum?

Phoebie SG

not really same lah

some chinese terms also differ

like sweet potato, here locally term as fang su?

there term as di gua?

bo liao SG

Not very the same.

if we hokkien agree on something> we say "en" or "hah-nor"
taiwan ppl say>"hay-ya"

__________

their pronounce is slightly diff from us.or me only.
our me/i in hokkien is "wa"
theirs is "goon" or "gwa"

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stil got quite afew , jus suddenly cannot remember it.

dragg SG

like pian so in min nan yu singaporeans only know how to say toilet.

Embarassed

Icemoon SG

fang su is the proper term.

You read Lao Fuzi? Inside the character called dai fang su (in cantonese), the comic came from HK.

Even HK uses fang su. Laughing

Icemoon SG

Look .. we are all the descendants of the Yellow Emperor and Yan-di.

Mandarin might be another dialect to you, but it is THE official tongue of the chinese for the last few hundred years?

It is the elite tongue spoken by the chinese. In other words, if your ancestor studied very hard and got the zhuang yuan title, he will need to know the guan hua to converse with the officials and emperor in Beijing. Doubt the officials or emperor could understand southern dialects well.

Your pro-china argument is wrong. How do you explain Taiwan, which is not pro-China, also "following" them? Official announcements in Taiwan are still read in mandarin. Even the news is in mandarin.

Icemoon SG

Ask you a question .. if your dad is hokkien and mum is cantonese .. what is your mother tongue? Laughing

dragg SG

hokkien, traditionally we stick to the father side.

Icemoon SG

so if your mother don't know hokkien well, how she teach you leh?

Call it grandmother's tongue lah. Need your father's mother to teach you. Laughing

o-lua SG

an additional note.

actually while voting for the official language of China.
there were two major contestant, Mandrain and Cantonese.

cantonese for it's literature-like vocabulary.
in the end, the ppl out north chosed mandrain. and cantonese lose out by TWO votes. imagine everyone speaking cantonese now. hhaa.

Icemoon SG

Cantonese is closely related to the tongue in the Tang Dynasty, the golden age of China. Which is why Li Bai's poems sound good when recited in Cantonese.

No problem with choosing cantonese as the putonghua.

dragg SG

i enjoy speaking cantonese too.

hokkien a bit too vulgar.

digicharat SG

as long as the word chao chee bai has the same meaning in taiwan, i can survive there.