Does RSAF use this missles

last SG · 2005-12-13T22:26:07+00:00

how about the Mk-83? thats 1000lb exactly. Mk-82 is 500lb

Simon Dean SG

Jdam bomb

AGm 64 maverick

aim 9x sidewinder

?

sgFish SG

not sure about the JDAM, we probably do, but we are getting the AGM-154 JSOW, which has a much longer range than the JDAMs

AGM-65 maverick you mean. We use the AGM-65B and G variants.

AIM-9Xs have been ordered together with the F-15T as part of the package

Shotgun SG

I believe JDAMs would be part of our inventory soon enough.

Delta 5 SG

50 of the 500lb GBU-38 JDAM bombs were ordered as part of the F-15T deal.

However, follow-up orders for JDAMs are expected. Actually the RSAF already has a similar weapon in the LongShot glide bomb believed to be in service since 2000. Numbers are unknown.

Orcishwarrior SG

The weaponary such as Aim-9X and JSOW are up for approval from the US congress. Till now procurement of F-15T and her "side order" remains vague, there could be another round of surprises awaiting the defense analyst. Very Happy
till then all informations could be just another speculation

beavan SG

what can we do with jus 50 of those bombs?

i think prolly they'll research into it and MAYBE reverse engineer it for RSAF

Shotgun SG

50 JDAMs can bomb 50 targets? Besides, JDAMs just has a GPS INS kit attached to the usual dumb bombs, thats all.

duotiga83 SG

layman term for JDAM dumb bombs with GPS guidance

Delta 5 SG

We already have plenty of ordinary free-fall bombs and LGBs; those 50 bombs come with the BLU-111 warhead which can be used to strike hardened targets such as aircraft shelters. Considering the fact that our potential adversries do not have too many of these shelters, this purchase of 50 weapons is sufficient for the time being... Wink

Delta 5 SG

Besides the TV-guided AGM-65B and IIR AGM-65G we also have a number of laser-guided AGM-65E Mavericks... Nevertheless the AGM-65G variant packs the biggest punch due to its larger 300lb warhead.

sgFish SG

ooh really? Why'd we need the E model for? so that our guys on the ground can paint targets for them?

Delta 5 SG

I think our F-16s can self-designate targets... The AGM-65E would be useful when the targets are 'cold' such as buildings in which the AGM-65G would not be able to lock on... Moreover it is a big improvement over the TV -guided AGM-65B.

Shotgun SG

Eh, i've never tried using laser guided Mavericks before.. only the TV-guided ones. The maverick's sensors pick everything up nicely. Be it buildings or vehicles. Easy to use too... point maverick at target, wait for the unit to acquire, then lock it and shoot it.

My only gripe is that i can only launch 1 at a time. Heh. That means have to loiter a bit longer for those manpads to take potshots at me.

sgFish SG

one at a time only meh? i think if the operator is quick enough he can ripple fire at multiple targets...It is after all, a fire and forget weapon.

these sort of things are better left to the WSOs rather than pilots

Shotgun SG

Well, I can't speak for the WSOs. The only way that the Mavericks can be rippled fired quickly is that if its slewed to the radar.

Means the radar locks on to the target, maverick's sensor locks on to the radar's target. Fire, switch to next target, fire switch again.

Still, u can't lock multiple targets and fire at once.

Besides, if we were to use a laser guided maverick, the pilot still has to fly a designator turn to keep the maverick on target. Laser guided mavericks definitely has a slower rate of fire since u have to guide til the missile impacts.

Simon Dean SG

you are a fight pilot? Very Happy

sgFish SG

yeah i meant that. sorry if i didn't make it clear >.<

yeah of course. thats why i was wondering why we had the E. no point having it unless they intended our vipers to give precision CAS by ground units lasing targets. Though i think a designator turn isn't required unlike LGBs due to the missile having a much shorter flight time than LGBs.

Why do we use the B not D anyway? the 65D was always my favourite model...some more it can be carried in 3 per hardpoint configuration with the LAU-88 triple rails on the no 3 and 7 hardponts on the viper. The 65D is also much better for night operations, as it uses an IIR seeker head instead of just an EO head, something the RSAF has probably been focusing on...

sgFish SG

haha i believe he plays flight sims Mr. Green

Shotgun SG

U think a fighter pilot would talk so much about their work online? LOL!

I believe the G models pack a heavier punch. Bigger warhead, better against hardened targets.

True enough, the pilot doesn't have to fly the designator turn as long, but he still has to fly it. Chances are, if he waits for the missile to impact the target without executing a designator turn, he might end up a bit too far from his strike steer point.

Its better that he does, and keep out of potential trouble.

The Mavs i always believe as "precise" CAS. Meaning, u lock up the target, identify it as the enemy's and then Rifle it.

Otherwise, CBU's are my choice of weapons. Nothing keeps everybody's heads down better than bomblets do. =D

Oh btw, Mavs double up as nifty FLIR pods too. =D

Paladin SG

We really need JDAM when we are having Longshot?

Longshot is so much cheaper..

Click
http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_products/strikeweapons/LONGSHOT/product-LONGSHOT.html

Discussion of longshot in another forum about our longshot.
http://militarynuts.com/index.php?showtopic=646

"When the (Longshot) wing kit is attached to the CBU87 Combined Effects Munition [a cluster bomb that has been used widely in regional conflicts], it carries the same submunition as carried by the AGM154A JSOW. The difference is that the CBU87 carries 202 of those bomblets, whereas Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW) carries 145. The range performance is similar. The LongShot version will attain roughly 40 nautical miles, which is the minimum stated for JSOW. On the other hand, when it is attached to a Mark 82, 500 pound general purpose bomb, it will exceed 60 nautical miles in range, which will give it somewhat greater range than JSOW."

The most attractive point..

"... JSOW, roughly $200,000 to deliver 145 bomblets. And LongShot equipped CBU87, $40,000 to deliver 202 bomblets. It performs the same mission and has the same accuracy, because it uses the same satellites for its navigational information. "

Read the whole article here..
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/longshot.htm