A Star War 3 weapon?

last SG · 2005-07-20T12:44:16+00:00

SAF is already using 5.7mm ammo. I have seen many pics of SAF SpecOps using the FN P90 with silencer. The FN P90 is the funky-looking PDW in 5.7mm calibre.

lionnoisy SG

It is not taken from Star War 3.But our own new babe!

See the source at
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=218

XM 29

http://www.hkpro.com/oicw.htm

It is an un official site of HK.

6. Hard weapons made in Spore
http://www.stengg.com/kinetics/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1

u wont believe we can concept/design/make/test/operate so many
weapons and equipmemts.Take a good look.

U have to spend half day to go thro our products in

Electronics,Aerpspace ,Land and Marine Sysetms.

See how we got contracts in US etc!

All these are for deterrent,not for aggression.

Like the Chinese proverb goes:
To deter war by power.

or somebody said:
Only u prepare well for war,then u will get peace.

Squad Support Weapon (SSW)==Our own Spore weapon

""The SSW was conceptualised specifically for military operations in urban terrain (MOUT). Although the idea of a dual calibre weapon is not new, ST Kinetics' SSW is the only infantry weapon developed in Asia with a Fire Control System (FCS) that fires next generation programmable ammunition like the 40mm Air Bursting Munition (ABM) directly from a handheld system. Weighing only 6kg with a full load 4 x 40mm rounds and 20 x 5.7mm rounds, the SSW is hassle-free, intuitive to use, and short and light enough to be carried and efficiently deployed by individual soldiers even in confined spaces.

Improved Lethality
The SSW has a built-in miniaturised FCS for better accuracy, reliability and improved probability of a first time hit. The FCS features advanced electronics to ensure quick target acquisition and accurate delivery of fire. It helps the user to compute the range using a laser range finder, and programmes ammunition quickly and accurately. It is designed with an automatic ammunition recognition device to help overcome any human errors that might compromise safety and reliability.

In its grenade launcher mode, ST Kinetics' SSW fires existing 40mm low velocity and a new medium velocity round, ABM and conventional grenades. Medium velocity rounds offer users a longer range. Coupled with an FCS, it also offers increased accuracy. This offers an unprecedented lethality in personal defence weapons.

With an ABM capability built into a handheld system, soldiers are now equipped with greater lethality to overcome targets located in areas such as rooftops or windows beyond the reaches of conventional ammunition. The ABM is particularly effective where targets are situated in difficult or closed terrain such as bunkers and caves, as evidenced in recent world conflicts.

With its capacity for four ready 40mm rounds in the SSW, soldiers can now operate with increased confidence knowing that they can engage their targets quickly and effectively without needing to re-load after each shot. The SSW offers a high rate of grenade fire, and can operate in a single shot or semi-automatic mode for a more permanent and lethal effect. This is a crucial feature for fleeting targets in urban warfare.

In grenade launcher mode, the SSW has an effective range of up to 500m, depending on the type of ammunition selected.

Personal Defence Weapon
As a personal defence weapon, the SSW is customised for smaller and more powerful PDW ammunition such as 5.7mm. It can also be configured for 4.6mm PDW calibre, according to the customer's requirements. It comes with a 20 round magazine, and can engage targets of up to 200m.

Designed to combat the demands of urban warfare, ST Kinetics' SSW offers a lethal 2-in-1 combination, packed into a light weight, compact and ergonomic design.

Family of Weapons Concept
The SSW is built on a family of weapons concept for maximum commonality in terms of logistics and maintenance. Future variants could include a semi automatic grenade launcher using a box magazine combined with a PDW, or simply a semi automatic grenade launcher without a PDW. Designs are currently on the drawing board, and a first technical demostrator of the standard SSW is expected to be ready in 3 to 4 years' time.

Related Companies

* Singapore Technologies Kinetics Ltd (ST Kinetics),end of quote""

2.How to compare with XM29?

XM29 looks bulky.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm

XM 8 was detached fr XM 29 to form on its own.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m8-oicw.htm

3.I prefer SSW,looks more easy to handle.I can bet one coffee with u that SSW can be field earlier than XM28.Limited to 2 coffee.

4.We have 40mm Air Bursting Munition System (ABMS) of 33 kg in operation.Our SAR 21 is a very good base to form SSW.

The 40mm x4 is just mated with the rifle.Does US has ABMS?

http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=150

5.It seems we are in par with US with small arms R and D.Looking forward to try this babe.

6.See

more Spore smart weapons beside Batman flying vehicle

fr STimes 2004-03-07.AA2004

read for Spore MAV and UAV

Just talking for outlook,I like Spore SSW.How about u?

read 25.08.2005 for comparsions.

lionnoisy SG

Sorry forget to put the link for SSW--SQUAD SOPPORT WEAPON

http://www.stengg.com/kinetics/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1

http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=218

nismoS132 SG

i think i much prefer the prototype.

at least it wasn't 6kg.

LazerLordz SG

Image works now.

crazy monkey SG

just use light sabers Laughing

Lance_han SG

u onli die faster...since when lightsabers can deflect off bullets...?? Laughing

LazerLordz SG

He thinks he has the Force mah.. Rolling Eyes

ah_kwang SG

Looks like another toy bound for Toy R Us manufactured by ST...

tarutaru SG

ahhhhhh......u muz have the force b4 u can used the light sabre

lionnoisy SG

blank. see below.

snk86 SG

side notes, if you can deflect of a blaster bolt using a lightsaber, then a bullet is nothing(just melt it) because the velocity of a blaster blot is a few times(Base on a star wars novel, forgot the exact velocity liao) that of a bullet.

still, that new weapon really looks like a toy lah

snk86 SG

sry, double.

lionnoisy SG

blank.repeat.

Ito_^ SG

still, when it starts killing, im sure noone will dare to complain lah.

i only i can get stuff like those on ebay. Laughing

lionnoisy SG

XM 29 looks bulky.See fr unofficial site.

http://www.hkpro.com/oicw.htm

All images not in scale,all under development and with air bursting grenade.
Phrase 3 still big.
TOP: XM 29 III. 5.56 rifle and 20mm x 8. 6.8 kg loaded.
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0600/647.htm

Middle:Spore SAW:Weighing only 6kg with a full load 4 x 40mm rounds and 20 x 5.7mm rounds.Prototype completed in 2003. fr ST auunal Report 2003
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=218
Bottom :XM 25 of ATK fr http://www.atk.com/AdvancedWeaponSystems/advanceweaponsystems_xm25.asp
25mm only.Range 300 to 500m.
Added on 24.05.05

XM25 Prototype 9 May 2005
fr http://hkpro.websolv.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=249570

2.fr U.S. Army Test & Evaluation Management Agency
HQDA TEMP Status List
June 17, 2005

OICW Increment I (XM 8].5.
OICW Increment II (XM25) 5 & 6
OICW Increment III (XM29) 5 & 6

Legend:5----On OSD T&E Oversight List for Operational Test
.............6----On OSD T&E Oversight List for Live Fire

3.Will Our SAW bid for OICW?
I think it will for the prototype was completed in 2003.
Added on 24.06.2005

fr http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/002263.html

lionnoisy SG

SAW can match XM 29
More Singaporean under estimate the technical capability of Sg than over estimate.Our products in fact are comparable to the most advanced one.In some
cases,we may be slightly ahead of them.

Take OICW XM 29 as example. Our SAW ,though prototype completed in 2003, may be a replacement of it. Both of them comprises a rifle and a grenade launcher
OICWXM 29
This piece has been spilt into a rifle ,XM 8 and grenade launcher ,XM 25.
1.The rifle:XM8
Pl read Can SAR 21 replace M16 .
And Take coverXM8 is shooting

The recoil on its own is very strong.It is unlikely that it can improve to a satisfactory level unless the basic design of mechanism is changed.

2.The grenade launcher:XM25
The grenade, with air bursting ammunition, has been changed from 20mm to 25 mm.

3.Overall
The overall performance is most likely affected by the jumping of rifle portion.

Spores SSW-
http://www.stengg.com/kinetics/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1
4.The rifle:
With the experience of SAR 21 and Ultimax 100,I think it will not create much trouble.

5.Grenade launcher:
ST has not shown hand held stand alnoe GL .However,ST has much experience in GL.eg 40mm Air Bursting Munition System (ABMS)

When the air-burst mode is selected, the rounds can also be programmed to fire a single round, multiple bursts at the same point, or a "string-of-pearls": multi-round-burst at set intervals. It also enables the engagement of targets without premature detonation, unlike conventional rounds, where detonation may occur upon contact with foliage. The innovative use of dense preformed tungsten spheres improves lethality against body armour.

Note the tungsten balls explodes in cone shape.Keep the shooter safe.
Very first in the world!! read notew below.

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/cyberpioneer/backissues_jan05_01.htm

http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=150

Watch the video.note the Cone effect.

6.Overall performance of Spore SAW

fr http://www.stengg.com/AR2004/download/STE_ExtendingOurHorizons.pdf
ST annual report 2004.

Prototype was completed in 2003.Annual report 2003.

Weighing only 6kg with a full load 4 x 40mm rounds and 20 x 5.7mm rounds, the SSW is hassle-free, intuitive to use, and short and light enough to be carried and efficiently deployed by individual soldiers even in confined spaces.

We have not seen the overall performance yet.However,ST have much experiences in making the 2 pieces ,namely rifle and GL.I think the end
product will not disappoint the user.

Added on 26.06.05
The grenade will explode and tiny TUNGSTEN balls splash in cone shape to
front.This will not hurt the shooter.

Name: Tungsten
Symbol: W
Atomic Number: 74
Atomic Mass: 183.84 amu
Melting Point: 3410.0 °C (3683.15 °K, 6170.0 °F)
Boiling Point: 5660.0 °C (5933.15 °K, 10220.0 °F)

fr http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/w.html

Hardness and density properties make this metal ideal for making heavy metal alloys that are used in armaments....
Composites are used as a substitute for lead in bullets and shot

fr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten

added on 28.07.2005
...

...fired of short distance target 40 m without endangering the gun crew as no fragements are flying backwards due to the base fuse design of the projectiles.

fr http://www.stengg.com/upload/3032iEg0Rh7PEiSTYN4.pdf

lionnoisy SG

Asian Aerospace 04.Image fr ST Engineering.

One that created a buzz at Asian Aerospace was the Stars Wars-like Squad Support Weapon (SSW), which integrates a 40mm grenade launcher into a rifle as a single, seamless handheld weapon.

The revolutionary dual-calibre weapon, still under development, is designed
for urban warfare, which is easily the most deadly and difficult type of combat
operations today as the ongoing conflict in Iraq shows.

The SSW equips foot soldiers with lethal firepower. Its next-generation
programmable 40mm Air Bursting Munition, a world's first in cutting edge
technology, can hit enemy troops concealed behind windows or on rooftops.

The weapon's ability to hit targets beyond the reach of conventional
ammunition extends to enemies hidden in bunkers and caves.

Squad Support Weapon: Under development. Combines 40mm grenade launcher with rifle into one seamless weapon. Designed for urban warfare. Weighs only 6kg with full load of 4 x 40mm rounds and 20 x 5.7mm rounds. Can hit targets hidden behind walls, windows and rooftops or inside bunkers and caves.

STimes 07.03.04.

Prototype was completed in 2003.

lionnoisy SG

ATK Successfully Demonstrates XM25 Airbursting Weapon System

ATK'S Advanced Weapon Design Gives the Warfighter Unmatched Precision and Lethality

XM25 Ideal for Urban Combat Environments

Minneapolis, June 22, 2005 Alliant Techsystems (NYSE: ATK) and the U.S. Armys Project Manager-Soldier Weapons successfully demonstrated the XM25 advanced airbursting weapon system with developmental ammunition at the International Infantry & Joint Services Small Arms Systems Annual Symposium on May 19, 2005.

The target for the first shot was a small window located approximately 170 meters down range. After exiting the chamber, the round flew right through the target and detonated inside the virtual room. The next four shots in the demonstration sequence also successfully engaged targets at ranges approaching 500 meters. The demonstration was the latest in an on-going series of successful field tests for the XM25. It was designed to simulate a realistic urban combat challenge and the XM25 met all test objectives.

When fielded, the XM25 will fire a High Explosive (HE), air bursting 25mm round capable of defeating an enemy behind a wall, inside a building or in a foxhole. The advanced design allows the operator to program the round so that it flies to the target and detonates at a precise point in the air. It does not require impact to detonate.

The revolutionary fire control system for the XM25 employs an advanced laser rangefinder that transmits information to the chambered 25mm round. As the round flies down range to the target, it precisely measures the distance traveled and detonates at exactly the right moment to deliver maximum effectiveness. The XM25 dramatically increases the warfighters system performance while extending the effective range of the soldiers individual weapon to more than 500 meters.

fr http://www.atk.com/NewsReleasesLatest3/2005-06-22-XM25.asp#TopOfPage

2.Hey! ST has been making similiar 40mm AB for a while.How come US has just
tested it?
fr
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=150

lionnoisy SG

fr http://stengg.wizwerx.com/postevent/pages/products.asp
ST post high lights of Asian Aerospace 2004

ST Kinetics' Squad Support Weapon (SSW) is a dual calibre weapon system aimed to replace the conventional "M16/M203" combination found in most infantry squads. The SSW comprises a 40mm grenade launcher, an integrated personal defence weapon and a fire control system.

SSW by ST.Left view.

Right view.
fr http://stengg.wizwerx.com/postevent/pages/vip.asp

fr http://www.stengg.com/kinetics/listing.aspx?pdtypeid=1

wonderamazement SG

looks pretty bulky to me…