Singapore's Next Generation Fighter

last SG · 2004-03-08T17:15:05+00:00

Agree that the ILS alone would swing it all to the F-15E. Even politically it maybe a better decision though the benefits would not be as great as South Kore...

Viper52 SG

Thanks for clearing that up, my main concern over this issue is the ability of the US to restrict arms available to the Typhoon in the intervening years between export and availablilty of the Meteor. During these years Typhoon would be restricted to AMRAAM, which as you may know, Singapore faced lots of issues in acquiring previously.

Still, it was a damned good idea to wean yourselves off dependence on the US for equipment and arms exports.

southpark2000 SG

Can I clarify that such a scenario WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Spain (for example only) hates us for some reason for another (maybe we caned one of the Spaniards). For that, they refuse to sell us a Typhoon landing gear (assume they make them).

If so, then okay. I am less concerned about US' components in the Typhoon as I think the European content is almost 100%.....

Kovy SG

hello !

Well as there are a lot of typhoon pictures in this long thread, I think, may be some recent rafale picture would be welcome Very Happy

Here are 2 pics of the rafale M4 taken 3 weeks ago at "Le Bourget" aerospace museum for the 70th anniversary of the french air force.

At the same time the Singaporian engineers were at the Landivisiau air base to study the beast Cool

I hope you like them Wink

jwcook SG

Thanks Martin for clearing that up, what would the world do without duct tape!.

Nice pictures of the Rafale Kovy!!!.

southpark2000, the US does supply lots of equipment for the Typhoon, IIRC the displays and certain computing parts spring to mind, its really is an international program!.

I'm looking forward to seeing Rafales and Typhoons in exercises together!, it will provide great pictures and then I'll be looking to see which group of pilots are smiling broadest when they land!!:-)

cheers

Old Bird SG

Probably undergoing some air test.

palmerised SG

sorry, im just too lazy to read all the 20 pages so here goes nothing..

has anyone considered the jsf 35, or f-35? isn't the nation helping the states along with other countries fund, research and develop this fighter?

be gone f-5Es and the crappy a4s.. we're in this big time..

and how come is the ah-64 under the air force.. not the army?

also, thoughts on the uh-1s and the pumas that we have..

cheeze SG

Singapore's interested in the JSF, but we're only an observer country in the program, doesn't mean we'll get it, even if we do, we will only get it after the main countries get theirs..
And by the way.. we don't fly crappy F5Es anymore... we fly F5S/T, way more capable...

palmerised SG

but still… aiyoo.. heart pain..

sbst275 SG

Nope, we are in since March as a full participant

eurofighter SG

SBST, you are the greatest joker. We are only a level four participant. I suggest you double confirm your info before posting.

sbst275 SG

Degree wise, I'm not sure... But there was confirmed a press release in March 2004 regarding this. I'm looking for the link.

Found it at www.f-16.net

But I'm certain that when F-35 comes in production, we are given priority to buy the A version.

Another thing, EF2000 is facing another delay again..

duotiga83 SG

i repeated again quoted on JDW "the country codified its entrance as a Security Co-operation Participation (SCP) by sigining a letter of acceptance"

and may i know what is typhoon delay? Rolling Eyes

and btw we may buy if it meets the deadline on 2012 production starts.

Cheers

sbst275 SG

Ok lah...

EF2000 delay is regarding weapons... It is on CNA website on Business section

Yes, participating countries will be given prority to buy

duotiga83 SG

well i today also read from flight international that Germany has fully supported the Typhoon Tranch 2 programme…...CNA is not very accurate info, just for reading pleasure & analysis

sbst275 SG

Nothing got to do with Germany, it is UK rather...
CNA info is from AP FYI

duotiga83 SG

hellllloooooo.....Eurofighter Typhoon is a joint fighter programme with Spain, Germany , Italy And UK

Rolling Eyes

sbst275 SG

Hello to you as well... I'm not talking abt the JV... UK wanted better weapons to be deliverly to be brought forwards... All other 3 members have already sealed their pact and only UK hasn't... It has nothing to do with the JV but rather ONE party wants to do something dif... The CNA news is from the JV manufacturer

sbst275 SG

Another similar report also came out from Bloomberg too

duotiga83 SG

http://www.eurofighter.com/News/

01 July 2004 - Eurofighter Welcome German Government Decision

Eurofighter GmbH welcome the decision by the German Government that effectively provides a route forward for contract signature of the Eurofighter Typhoon Supplement 3/Tranche 2 production contract. Eurofighter, in close collaboration with the Eurofighter Partner Companies, is in detailed discussions with NETMA and the four Partner Nations to finalise a contract that will provide the basis for future production of the Eurofighter Typhoon Weapon System.

Eurofighter Typhoon is now entering service with the Partner Air Forces in Germany, Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom. Tranche 2 is the second production phase of the programme that will see delivery of a more capable aircraft that will meet the operational requirements of the Partner Air Forces well in to the 21st Century. At the same time, Tranche 2 represents the aircraft standard that has won significant interest and commitment in the export market. In particular, Austria has signed a contract for 18 aircraft, Greece has endorsed a future Eurofighter procurement and Singapore is evaluating Eurofighter for a Future Fighter programme.

Tranche 2 represents a significant capability for both air forces and industry.

The Tranche 2 contract is a key driver in maintaining the integrity of the European industrial supplier base and continuity of Eurofighter production in the four Partner Nations. It is vital that a contract is secured as soon as possible.

Tranche 2 underpins high technology business in more than 400 aerospace companies in Europe. Continuity of the Eurofighter production programme is essential to maintain the global competitiveness of our industry and guarantee employment beyond Tranche 1 production.

The Eurofighter programme represents some 120,000 direct and indirect jobs across Europe. It is Europe’s largest industrial programme representing a direct commitment by partner nations and companies for investment in sustainable technology and the industrial potential of European industry.

sbst275 SG

EADS, one of the maker has warned that the EF2000 plant may close down (Bloomberg) because of UK and NOT Germany

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