Chinese Air Defence Systems for Malaysia

jianfish9 SG

Well. Compared to what we have... Our supposedly best is HAWK. 40km only.

I think you go internet find also can build it yourself.

The rest Raiper, Rbs, Igla can say is very short range.

Shotgun SG

Hmm I think thats the case if the aircraft doesn't have a HTS, Harm Targeting System. The Harm Targeting System on the F-16s collect all the radar emissions from the Radar Warning Reciever, which includes all the radars that are emitting, have emitted. And they include everything from search radars, to tracking and guidance radars. I believe it also includes naval radars.

The pilot can actually select which radar to shoot the Harm at. Whether the target is still emitting or not, I'm guess the HTS would still contain the coordinates which the radar was at.

I'm not clear with the nature of AESA radars tho. I know they scan a lot faster, hence the emissions would only be detected for a short while. But thats not a problem with a HTS? Unless the radar is a mobile one... But I'm not aware of any mobile SAMs that launches medium range missiles.

If the SAM is using an AESA Radar, I'm betting on the part where it has to actually lock on to me before i launch a HARM at it. Since thats the part where it has to keep its radar on in order to guide its weapon at me. Since no Medium Ranged SAM radars are highly mobile yet, I'm hoping the emitter will still be there wan my HARM slams in on it.

38 SG

Ha, HTS just provides you a simple machine solution, but how reliable is that solution? Wink
The Harms infamous only record of knocking out an AESA radar happened in 2003, When a USAF F16 launched an AGM88 harm, destroyed a friendly units MPQ-53 radar for guiding the Patriot SAM.

ASEA is the best way to count ani-radiation missile, 1 of the features the ASEA has is its low-probability of intercept ( LPI) , if you know the F22s APG77 ASEA, you probably heard of this LPI. short to instantaneous scanning rates of the AESA contribute to this LPI feature, but not all, some other advantages of the ASEA can also make the Radar Warning Receiver's interception distance much shortened if compared to old style mechanic driven radar and increase the difficulties for the HARM mission computer to analyze those signals fast enough.

BTW, Cheating Anti-radiation missile is not that a tough task as compared to jamming an AAM or SAM

Shotgun SG

Well, jamming AAMs and SAMs has never been easy. In fact... they whole idea is to make them crank more and more power to their guidance radars to burn through the jamming so that HARM's can target them more effectively.

And I do agree that SAMs with AESA radars and perhaps active radar guided missiles would be a challenge for SEAD aircraft and pilots.

But, killing SAMs is not just going up to 20000ft, broadcast the wild weasel's presence and wait to get shot at, and hopefully return a HARM. That could be just one component of it. There could be a 2nd package with Mavericks and CBUs in the weeds, waiting for the location of the SAM, ready to shove its payload down the Air Defense Team's throat. I guess, going against modern air defence systems has become an art, no longer just science.

No air defence systems are perfect, nor undefeatable. U just have to peel them layer by layer, and u'll get there.

But point taken tho. I'd hate to go up against any SAMs using an AESA radar.

38 SG

Just remember 1 of the Russian air force chef once said : If theres only 1 battalion of S300 SAMs. The outcome of NATOs air raid on Yugoslavia would totally different.

The US and its ally so far never face any opponents equipped with AESA/ESA Radar guided SAM like S300 etc before. All those Rogue nations US punished before mainly equipped SA-6 at most.

Shotgun SG

Heh. The russian chief probably didn’t consider the F-117s.

38 SG

Stealth is the best SEAD platform because ur enemys radar cant lock u, however, Id better try to avoid saying cant detect u

However, only US got this exclusive dimension of Stealth

U r not US, and ur opponent is not that shabby. So what the Russian airforce generals words still quite remarkable

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