I know how to download mp3 and not get caught by police

weeie SG

yeap there is a list of valid hardware addresses by the different vendors because each of them are allocated a specific range to bind to their hardwares (yes downloadable)...but in mac spoofing, you can't determine the real hardware addresses still because all the headers are crafted... you can only make use of this list of valid hardware addresses to help determine whether is it a spoofed mac address/valid mac address to increase the reliability in proofing someone using a spoofed mac address.

anyway, this is only one of the few techniques used in conjunction with the others to determine people using spoofed mac address. there are other techniques as well such as identifying the pattern of traffic, so on and so forth.

oh yah, some hardwares also allow users to change the mac address (not spoofed) provided they enabled this option. i seen it before although it's not a network card.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Some network cards can change, but one time only. Again, saw it somewhere online, but I lost that list. It's only a few years ago that this is allowed.

The list of hardware addresses are to prevent fake stocks though... not to determine if it is spoofed or not. In a way, it does help to detect spoofed addresses, but that's not its main aim.

Pattern of traffic is usually not that important, unless somebody tries hacking. It can be done, it is taught in school (at least in RP). Mr. Green

You can easily check this through command prompt in Windows...

Exact syntax is arp -a

If somebody tries something, you should be able to see.

netbios and netstat too...

weeie SG

yeah of course...its original aim is not for detecting spoofed addresses but it helps. Smile

pattern of traffic is important in detecting spoofed address because some spoofed wares allow users to generate different random mac address during a connected session. and many lame people are using this kinda technique as well...it's more of creating confusion at times (self-taught)

arp is a basic and yet useful command. if a network adminstrator don't know about this command....can sack him liao. but arp is not necessary meant for checking/detecting hacker. but rather for checking for connected systems. just like in a corporate network the admin can simply do a broadcast and then use this command to check which computers are connected.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Oh... the softwares I have worked differently... so it's OK...

XTransbus SG

total rubbish.
The safest way is to go buy either the original cd or pirated ones.
you got macdonalds sekali got undercover police sitting beside you downloading song through p2p DIE!!! Laughing
One way is you download den store every songs you download inside an ipod 60gb and then hide it. Remember to erase your data permanantly. If mata raid also cannot find evidence to arrest you.

hatemeifuwantto SG

aiyo…theres no way a mp3 will be 100% legal de la…anyway u think wat police man dun have pirated stuff de ar? i got trustable links de ok..n police do alot of stuff u dunno wan lo

kog SG

You are assuming too many things, matter is not that complicated actually.

You assume there is an admin monitoring the network, eyes never leave monitor. You assume police askes the admin to help or the admin is an advocate of copyright laws. You assume the admin can stop me from leaving mac until police arrives, does he has the right to restrain other people's activity? Erasing mp3 and softwares take only a few seconds.

Actually, my method is foolproof one, unless I'm damn suay, then I will be busted.

jonchao72 SG

Go download at your friend's house secretly so he kena mata and not you. Razz

ndmmxiaomayi SG

And you think kids don't know. Laughing

Kids know more these days, although they may not have the necessary tools.

kenn3th SG

aiya!!u tell them le!! psst.. cannot say it so openly ma!! Laughing

OO_OO_OO SG

i feel that its okay for them to protect intellectual rights and stuff..
but comon, they've been fuccking going overboard, even youtube is facing action.
if i bought a certain cd, the file belongs to me, i dont care who the fucck you are but i dont like anyone telling me how and what i should do to the file.

u dont want ppl to share your file, you protect it.
if they crack the protection, fine, sue them all you want.
if u didnt protect the file, the buyer is free to do whatever he wants to it and the fuccking copyright ppl shd just go and die.

whats next? ban radio?

XTransbus SG

best way that i can think of.
Look for friends who have huge collections of CDs and mp3.
Den go to his/her house and copy all the songs you want. Give them one piece of roti prata as a tip (not quite necessary though Laughing )

pipipopo SG

use his computer and electricity one piece prata too cheap skate lah...mayb one meal full better mah see how many songs u copy from him Cool

kog SG

Mr. Green that's the way

Y_Shun SG

Radios also need to pay $$ for license to play those music one. Mad

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