arming a 7 man section

SMAPLionHeart SG

Sometimes i don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I see the malaysians keep on laughing at us.
i feel sorry for them.

chronicles SG

Shut up smart alec Laughing

Lance_han SG

amen to tat Laughing

Fatum SG

you got to realise that FIBUA and jungle warfare are quite different from each other, FIBUA doctrine calls for much more firepower than jungle warfare, the ammo expenditure for FIBUA will be a lot higher than jungle fighting, so the setup should be quite different, but anyways, here's my atttempt:

jungle warefare:

7 men with personal role radios like the royal army, old school or mesh type SBO with NO plates ... plates protection are well and good, but they are heavy as hell, and hot too ... considering the average built of our soldiers, it might be more of a hinderance than help ... it's better that you're able to run faster than to be slow and "protected"

2 x M16A4 series with rail, with reflex sights
2 x M16A4 with M203, reflex sights as well, with reflex quadrant sights for the M203 ( the old quadrant sight is a pain isn't it ... )
1 x M16A4 with ACOG 3X sharpshooter scope
2 x U100 SAW with ACOG scoop

each man gets 8 mags plus one in weapon (1.5 contact rate) plus another another 120 loose rounds in backpack, 1 smoke, 2 frags, (two riflemen carry 1 more coloured smoke each for TAG), 2 matadors, 4 claymores, bayonets, grenadiers carry 12 HEDP and 4 Star shells ... SAW men gets 2 x 100 round mags with the sling baggie carrier for sustained support fire

the reason why i chose the full sized M-16 is because of the longer range and accuracy a long barrel gives, those who have shot carbine and M-16 before will know what i mean ... a niffy little weapon is nice to look at and lug around, but give me a full sized rifle anyday ... (that's why strike coys stick with M-16s instead of carbines)

FIBUA/Urban:

same as above, but with plates this time, FIBUA is a whole different ball game, but yeah, the weight will still be a bitch to lug around, vest type SBO for carrying heavier loads, carbines instead of full sized because of length considerations, accuracy is not quite an issue in FIBUA,

2 x M4A1 carbine with reflex sights
2 x M4/M203 combo with reflex sights and reflex quadrant sights
1 x M4A1 with ACOG 3X scope (section sharpshooter)
2 x U100 SAW

each man carries 12 x mag on vest plus 1 in weapon, plus 120 rounds loose in backpack, 2 smokes, 6 frags, bayonet/fighting knife, 5 x matador (SAW excempt), SAW man carries drum mags as above also, claymores replaced by C4/Block 3 with the standard paraphernalia, det cords etc ... each man gets a smaller combat backpack (something like the old scout pack, anyone has seen one of those before ? but i'm thinking of something slightly bigger actually).

MGs and special application weapons like sniper rifles are nice, but should be platoon assets at the minimum i think, unless you're a spec ops unit on specialized missions, for a generic infantry section, things like that doesn't quite earn a place in the load out to me ... also, no one will complain of too much ammo or grenades ... untill one has to lug it around on you ... weight = no good ... and this is especially true for smaller built chaps like us ... but i think i'm pushing the weight boundary here already ...

chronicles SG

ALSO mission specific, Special forces have a definate objective most os the time, while soldiers objectives constantly changes.My arming is that for special forces.

insouciant SG

yes, we would all love to change our loadouts as we go from mission to mission.

But how often do you actually get a chance to chance weopons from mission to mission if you are infantry or gaurds?

Also, often times you approach a urban setting from a rural forest setting and vice versa. You have to find a compromise somewhere. Each 7 man section or even platoon doesn't have it's personally 5 tonner following behind them with an amoury all the time.[/b]

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