Singapore has dropped the Eurofighter combat jet

Orcishwarrior SG

just my humble opinion,if singapore finalised rafale over F-15T. This directly gives us / open up wider choice of european weaponary. Storm shadow stand-off cruise missile, Mica etc. These are sophisticated hardware that we are required to BEG from the United States.

Furthermore, the french government is supporting dassult aviation finanically. Such funding pave the way for more sophisticated version of Rafale, significantly allowing the development of AESA system by european's prime electronic defence company, Thale Group.

EVEN THEIR PRESIDENT CHAIRC BECAME THEIR PROMOTOR.
Looks like dassult-aviation is really desperate. Can chop chop chop!!! them
Thats really attractive. Very Happy

tvdog SG

Damn, the Typhoon was my fave...

I hope we get the F-15. Don't really believe in French planes. Nothing they built had been outstanding so far.

Orcishwarrior SG

The Eurofighter is my favourite as well Sad . Sad they are still rather unstable.
Looks like gonna pin my hope on Rafale. WE WANT RAFALE!! WE WANT RAFALE!! Razz .

Lance_han SG

no...damm the Rafale...down wif the Rafale Laughing

Lance_han SG

well...point taken...but the alphabet T looks stupid on an aircraft name...so if worst come to worst...eh F-15G sounds nice... Laughing

CenturionMBT SG

well, i love the rafale too. But besides all the goodies that they are giving out, you must take into account the cost factor. With the fall of the USD vs Euro, the rafale would be significantly more ex den the eagle.

Razor87th SG

Aww...and i was hoping that we'd be the next 4th gen Eurofighter fighter pilots Rolling Eyes

CenturionMBT SG

rafale is 4th gen too . . .

vaxjunior SG

Does anybody know the price tag for the Rafale vs Eagle? Even with the Euro dollar being so high with a lower price tag, it should be competitive or if they are really desperate, cut the price or agree to a lower pegged rate for the sale (it has been done in many international deals).

I loved the Eagle but as someone pointed out, Rafale is 4th Gen. As an analogy, I would rather buy a latest version car versus a great old reliable vehicle. The new planes would have incorporated most of the lessons learnt plus most of the new russian planes would have been designed to defeat American planes esp F15s since it was the core of American air power during the cold war (!) period.

my 2 cents.

sbst275 SG

Hmm… EuroFighter is like being humilated

ditzy SG

What humiliated? Thats how tenders work what.

sbst275 SG

It is a blow as bef decision is made, this is already out

KumSioJui SG

Haha... I saw the news in today's papers ... rafale and F15 in the final running ... two thumbs up Mr. Green

I'm glad the military planners have enough common sense not to go for the typhoon pipe dream. Laughing 600 aircraft have been ordered but not a single one in font line service says a lot abt how good the aircraft is.

But with the Rafale and F15T .. my analysis as follows.

It shows that they still want the Rafale despite all the scandals .. it meets the requirements of SAF:

1) An affordable Aircraft
2) Highly Agile and Advance platform
3) Able to exploit technologies

For the F15T .. now thats something new. The Rafale system is good and fits our requirements but I suspect they are also seriously considering the F15T, if(and it's a big if) there is a policy change on the americans side giving us as competitive terms as what the french are offering as to the above points 1 & especially points 3 .. they may go for the F15T.

So in other words I think Rafale is a second best option, an arm twister for the yanks. If the yanks give in we take the F15 but if they are stubborn & don't want to budge on point 1 & 3 .. we will tell them to go to hell & pick the rafale.

At this point I have to say Rafale has very high chance unless a miracle happened.

spacemarine SG

Eurofighter deal that SAF dropped. That is EADS too right? Is it related to the attempted bribery in SAF helicopter scandal? SAF’s punishment for EADS?

suntze SG

originally posted by spacemarine

Eurofighter deal that SAF dropped. That is EADS too right? Is it related to the attempted bribery in SAF helicopter scandal? SAF's punishment for EADS?

+1
This serves to warn vendors not to try it in the future. Twisted Evil

hyuuga neji SG

its always been there...
this kind of things no need announce one... Wink

sgFish SG

if we pick the 15T would we be disadvantaged against the Su-30s in the air to air arena?

also, are the americans releasing standoff cruise missiles like the SLAM-ER to us if we pick the 15T? because the french are offering the SCALP/APACHE with the rafale, and if the americans don't offer us a similar weapon, we wouldn't be so stupid to get the 15T would we...

LazerLordz SG

Maybe the F-15 deal would be the litmus test for Singapore-US relationship, and we will find out if they are truly our friends or just another nation who needs us.

Arena SG

Here goes the latest odds...

Rafale - 1.95
F-15 - 2.63

Place your bets now... Mr. Green
And stay tuned

Lance_han SG

my bets:F-15 all the way..
something nags in my mind telling tat if we do get the rafale...it might be a downgraded version of it...

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