RSAF F-5EII

zenden9 SG

Can RSAF F-5EII fire AIM 120??? Anybody know the answer?

gary1910 SG

It was reported that the Chilean F-5 which were upgraded by the Israeli have the ability to fire AIM-120.

Since our F-5 were too upgraded in the similar fashion by the Israeli, it should be.

BTW, the upgraded F-5E is called F-5S for the single seat, double seat version is the F-5T.

Warren Buffet SG

I think it has to do with the pylon wiring.....if it's Mil-Std 1760 it can interface with and fire most digital smart weapons.

IIRC, I think the answer is yes.

But then you need the OFP to calculate the firing solution???

student 17 SG

I can confirm that F-5S are AIM-120 compatible.

cheeze SG

Really? Explain leh...
I never knew we could carry them..hmmmm

Zogel SG

But 120 is not even in singapore. Crying or Very sad

eurofighter SG

Abit out of date huh? THey are already in our hands.

LazerLordz SG

There is an Israeli BVR missile that allegedly outperforms the AIM120.Forgot what its name is..

gary1910 SG

Here a link abt F-5S AIM-120 capability:

These fighters might also receive a new EL7M-2032 radar system, competing with the Italian FIAR Grifo-F, 35 of them have been sold to Singapore to upgrade its Tiger II..............

Italian X-band Grifo-F radar. The system is particularly designed to meet the need to improve the capabilities of various not so up-to-date second generation jet fighters, like Mirages, Mig-21s, and, of course, F-5s, including the possibility to use air-to-air active radar guidance AIM-120 AMRAAM. The Singapore Air Force adopted for its F-5 Tiger II the Italian radar Grifo-F...........

http://www.analisidifesa.it/numero4/eng/f5eng.htm

Here another link with better detail :

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f5_38.html

BTW , Israeli only BVR AA missiles is Derby.
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sidestep1984 SG

the derby arh?

Python is on top...derby below

cheeze SG

what they r saying is the radar is compatible to fire amraams, am i right..
well as far as i know, our F5s can only carry Sidewinders.. nothing else.

student 17 SG

Yes, you are right. So far AIM-120C only for the F-16C Blk 52, but F-5s can fire it too if the need arises. Fitted for but not with concept. Anyone knows RSAF uses which model for the AIM-120? C3/5/7?

gary1910 SG

C2 & C5 IIRC.

If I remember correctly from an article, if you r not having BVR AAM on it, then why the need to upgrade to a longer range radar??? Smile

The old radar can fire WVR AAM just as well. Mr. Green

zenden9 SG

I’m wondering why don’t we upgraded our F-16A/B instead of upgrading our F-5EII and give our F-16A/B to Thailand .We r keeping a older airframe and giving away a newer airframe.Is it wise to do that?

Warren Buffet SG

I think it's because there isn't the economy of scale to just do so for 7 kites though they could get some more from AMARC. Then you have to re-life the airframe......more work but still ok if there's enough of them.

The F-5S maybe an older plane but the avionics within is far better than the F-16A/Bs and probably alot easier to upgrade especially when ST-Aero worked on the OFP software.

Also this plane is alot stealthier than the F-16s. I'm guessing F-5E's RCS and the visual plus heat signature is alot smaller.

With a IRST it's a stealth fighter if you apply the RAM paint here and there.

LazerLordz SG

That's very interesting, and I believe that our F-5S has a different nose job as compared to the original F5 series.It's a good, sturdy plane.Shaped like an interceptor.

Zogel SG

U have any idea where they kept it?

cheeze SG

Nose gotta be bigger to fit the new radar in..