How to defeat the SOF/STAR

last SG · 2004-11-11T14:26:16+00:00

I mean guys,you gotta look at it this way,before Sept 11,who on earth would have thought of slamming a fuel-laden aircraft into a building to send a message...

Gedanken SG

Sure they could – just look at 9/11. Doesn’t mean that there’s a zero-loss solution for everything, though.

lwflee SG

SpecOp87 your scenario is very contrived leh. Maybe the discussion will be more fruitful if you base the scenario on actual incidents.

baer SG

No need to crack ur noodle. Just push someone off the platform during rush hour and MRT grinds to halt, that'll put enuff fear in commuters to make travel by MRT like playing russian roulette. Happens in NY, when everyone hears of an accident, it becomes jumper or victim?

BTW singapore policy no negoiations, see game theory analysis of SQ highjack. Sgp stance always shoot first. That will make Tangos desparate but leaves no room to compromise or win any 'moral victory'. Sgpeans generally support quick decisive actions whatever the cost, no hostages no prisoners.

RussianPower SG

It’s easy to defeat the SOF/STAR if your intention is to die with them… however, it would be a bigger challenge to capture them during the raid alive. Then maybe humiliate them by making them do an Abu Ghraib on national TV or something…

chunyong SG

ha, hard lah....they will fight to the very end one...u think will let u capture ? if really no bullets still got a blade to fight til the end with u one......mai siao siao.

SpecOps87 SG

SOF troopers are not your every day type of troopers.They are the elite,they did rather die trying then be humilated just because of the threat of death.

xiao wei * SG

For honor and Glory.

RussianPower SG

SOF/STAR after all still human, if you whack his head sure he will concuss. Then you can strip him naked and do discovery channel animal documentary.

chunyong SG

u dunno simi is PASGT helmet ? u htink they one person enter the room and wait there for 5 mins for his pals to cover his 6 huh ? u can knock out one but his pal will give u a few 9mms for dinner downunder.

lwflee SG

He is probably just saying that they get hurt too. IE he disagrees with the opinion that they cannot be captured.

IE opinions like

"ha, hard lah....they will fight to the very end one...u think will let u capture ? if really no bullets still got a blade to fight til the end with u one......mai siao siao."

SpecOps87 SG

Its not impossible to capture one of them,but the possibility of capturing one of them is difficult.Look at the movie The Negotiator,Samuel L. jackson's character also manage to capture like 2-3 SWAT Operators,this shows that the possibility of them being captured no matter how elite they are.But its just that the possibility is low.

And besides,if you are prepared to capture them alive,then I will recommend that you be prepared for a helluva fight. Very Happy We Dare!!!

gonegoose SG

SpecOps, i notice an increasing frequency of you referencing your discussions to MOVIES, i.e. Samuel L. Jackson capturing Spec Operators or Guns in Briefcases ala AD2000. Whilst i'm not fully aware of your training/background, its STILL silly to reference movies, even if they are based on actual events.

SF operators get captured (Bravo 2 - 0, and other unpublished incidents) and killed in action on a regular basis in any campaign like in Operation Just Cause, SAS storming of the Iranian Embassy, even Sayeret Mekhal suffered a loss of their commander in the Entebbe Hijack Incident. My point? the possiblity of SF being killed or captured are not as low as you think.

lwflee SG

In fact, i'll hazard much flaming to say that due to the nature of their jobs, they get killed/captured/injured more easily than other soldiers.

BAsically, they are ordinary humans put into absurd situations. That is why they need to have superb conditioning and training.

SpecOps87 SG

Hello...I have nt said that it is impossible for the troopers to be captured,nor did i sae that they are invulnerable to enemy fire...

and quoting movies are just an offhand example...you seem really into details huh?

chunyong SG

duh.....seems like u dunno they indeed have a blade to rely upon dat is right on their heart position on their vest, which they can use, will use and definitely use if circumstances forced to. last time the blade is on the Left thigh-rig straps but now changed liao. won't say wat kind of blade cos i think its OSA liao.

lwflee SG

I was clarifying the position. Stop whining.

Also, pls dun go "secret" pls.

lwflee SG

I was clarifying the position. Stop whining. And dun go all “secret”....

John Ching SG

With regards to using a blade, I'm assuming you're referring to either military SpecOps or Police SWAT. In any case, its not a secret since you'll be able to see it when they deployed. As for the placing of the blade, I should think its up to the individual operator to decide as to where he prefer to wear his blade since its for his comfort & easy accessibility. To have the blade worn at a standard area of the vest or body would only indicate that the operator does not really know how to appreciate the uses of a blade & possibily not even knowing how to use the blade. By the way, SAS & American SpecOps would usually carry more then 1 blade. American SWAT would carry 1 fixed blade & 1 folding blade. Twisted Evil

chunyong SG

here is fixed cos the vest position is fixed, and its a standard vest, divers and snipers different liao though and i not so sure abt SOF

gonegoose SG

<> Hello...I have nt said that it is impossible for the troopers to be captured,nor did i sae that they are invulnerable to enemy fire...

and quoting movies are just an offhand example...you seem really into details huh?<>

its not that i'm into details, but the CREDIBILITY of your examples give insight into the depth and knowledge of the source!! You were quoting an example to reinforce your belief that it is possible for "SF troopers to be captured" and you quoted NOT an actual event, BUT a MOVIE!!! its like your doctor telling you he saw an operation on the TV series ER and now wants to have a go at you... now how ridiculous does that sound to you? see my point?

Fug... obviously i don't know how to use them "quote" function buttons.. Embarassed

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