well firstly, i've bought 2 mp3 players with creative and i have
bad experiences with it. also a divicam that i bought was spoiled
and they refused to replace it at first, but got it replaced in the
end
secondly, Zen V Plus 2GB is $239 whereas Ipod Nano 2nd g is $248. I
add $10 more, i get something that's more "branded" and nicer
looking. not that i don't support local brand or anything but it's
just because of the "bad experiences" 
