SEAD

last SG · 2004-11-01T01:59:09+00:00

who cares who comes first, the rifles are identical, except the trigger area.

Johnston SG

yes, it is stupid.
So stupid, that learned Military Men have ordered their guns to fire on known locations of enemy air defenses assets.
It's so stupid, that people actually waste ink and time and saliva writing on it in official papers.

So stupid. Yes.

So because the BC's job is to support the armor and inf, he won't use a few shells on known AA assets? What if said AA assets blow up our own aircraft?

Commando teams can do whatever they damn well are ordered to. If you order them to kidnap someone, bring them back for your pleasure, you can.

I beg your pardon.
Did you or did you not go through anti-aircraft drill?
The average grunt would like to do something to the enemy rather than cower there and die. And you do know that rifle bullets can arc for quite a while?

Take an infantry battalion, all shooting up. Find a helicopter pilot who would want to fly in there.

Johnston SG

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0128.pdf

There you go.

Read the page before you go off ranting singlish.

Lockheed Martin has converted 16 S-3A Viking antisubmarine-warfare aircraft into a replacements for the EA-3B. One squadron on each coast has been established and utilizes the designation VQ. This aircraft will serve as the over the horizon "ears" for the modern carrier battlegroup

Quick.
Is there, or is there not, Electronic variants of the Viking in service?

foxtrout8 SG

Artilleries and SOF troops can be use to suppress enemy air defense by using the massive blanketing firepower of the former and the lethal hit, seek and run of the latter but riflemen is certainly a no no.

SibeiSuayKia SG

woah heng luckily i nv get involved =D

foxtrout8 SG

Quoted: Flying out of NS Rota, Spain, the last EA-3B's in service were retired from the U.S. Navy Oct. 1, 1991.

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/es-3_shadow.htm

Johnston SG

The day i allow myself to be upstaged by a 1987 student, is the day i dump this name.

Flying out of NS Rota, Spain, the last EA-3B's in service were retired from the U.S. Navy Oct. 1, 1991.

Do you know your alphabet?
EA-3B
ES-3B

foxtrout8 SG

Quoted:The 50 TACAIR air wing includes the following fixed wing aircraft: 20 F-14D "Bomcats" (Tomcats with a strike role), 36 F/A-18 Hornets, eight S-3A/B Vikings, four E-2C Hawkeyes, and four EA-6B Prowlers; and the following helicopters: four SH-60F and two HH-60H Seahawks. Both F-14D and S-3B Viking aircraft are being phased out by the USN, to be replaced by F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. Air wings can be varied according to the nature of the operation: for example, in 1994, 50 army helicopters replaced the usual air wing on the USS Dwight D Eisenhower during operations off Haiti.

GOT ES-3B IN THE ABOVE QUOTATION? EVEN THE S-3B IS FACING IT'S FATE.

AS I HAD SAID, THE ES-3Bs ARE ALL MOTHBALLED. UR POST ON THE CURRENT CVG IS CRAP.

DUN COME AND TEACH ME.

Johnston SG

EA-3B = Echo - Alpha - three - Bravo
ES-3B = Echo - Sierra - three - Bravo

In addition the EA-3 is a conversion of the Douglas A3 Skywarrior.
The ES-3 is a conversion of the Lockheed Martin S3 Viking.

Do you need me to go further?

fett SG

it's dedicated SEAD. example could be MiG 23(fighter/interceptor) and MiG 27(strike). both have similar airframe, but different avionics suite make the planes more suitable for one aspect of the air mission than the other.

anyway, nowadays everyone talking about swing-role. so not likely to have only one-dimensional design no more.

Johnston SG

But you did not answer the fundamental QUESTION:
Is there, or is there not a Electronic variant of the Hornet?

And you managed to mix up a Vietnam era aircraft with a modern aircraft.

So.... is the USN still using A-4 Skyhawks?
They can take off from carriers, you know.

foxtrout8 SG

OH IM SORRY, I MISTAKEN IT. ANYWAY I WAS LOOKING FOR A PROVE TO PROVE THAT THE PLANE IS RETIRED. I WAS TOO EXCITED... BUT I WAS RIGHT.

QUOTED : The first ES-3A was delivered in 1991. U.S. carriers typically deploy with two Shadow aircraft embarked. All ES-3 aircraft are scheduled to be removed from active service and placed in storage by September, 1999.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/aircraft/air-es3.html

SO AGAIN, DUN COME AND TEACH MI.

fett SG

thank you, i think. but it seems that talk of US navy not knowing how to buy planes anymore looks ot be true. and why the hell they dump A-6? they don't have any medium attack now. ya, it was long ago but i can't get over it.

Johnston SG

Good job.
You win a Tiger.

foxtrout8 SG

U GET THE ANSWER IN ONE OF MY QUOTES. IT SEEMS LIKE U ARE NOT OBSERVING WELL.

Johnston SG

But i must teach you, because you, in the first place, ASSUMED that the Viking is solely an ASW aircraft, when it can do these roles also.

Aerial Refuelling
Electronic Means
COD

And today, they want to make the Viking able to target precision weapons.

Of course i must teach you the difference between a Skywarrior and a Viking.

Johnston SG

It seems like the only thing senior about you is the number of your posts and the CAPS you are using.

As i recall, fett answered the question first, and you were not able to.
Not without flipping through the Net.

fett SG

S-3 was solely an ASW fix-wing aircraft. it's role was only expanded later on.
so i guess, everyone's right Very Happy

foxtrout8 SG

DUN ASSUME SO MUCH AND ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE THAT THERE IS NO MORE ES-3B IN CURRENT SERVICE AND UR CVG ORBAT AND SOME OR UR POSTS ARE TOTALLY CRAPPY.

BTW WHEN DID I ASSUME THAT THE VIKING HAVE THROUGHOUT IT'S OPERATION LIFE HAVE ONLI ONE ROLE?

DUN COME AND TEACH ME WHEN U ARROGANTLY MAKE SO MUCH MISTAKES.

MY MISTAKE WAS SKIN DEEP. IT WAS DUE TO THE MISREADING OF A LETTER. YOUR MISTAKE WAS A MORE OBVIOUS ONE WHEN YOU HAPPILY STATED TAT THE SHADOW IS IN THE CURRENT CVG ETC.

I SAID I KIND OF LOVE THIS....

Johnston SG

Ah, what the hell.
Have a nice big picture.

foxtrout8 SG

HE IS WRONG BECAUSE HE STUPIDLY STATED THAT THE ES-3B IS IN CURRENT SERVICE. AND BTW, ES-3B IS A SIGINT PLANE NOT A SEAD AIRCRAFT.

QUOTED: ES-3A is a high winged, jet powered, twin engine, carrier-based electronic reconnaissance mission aircraft equipped with folding wings, a launch bar, and a tailhook
http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/es-3_shadow.htm

QUOTED: The ES-3 Shadow, replaced the EA-3 Skywarrior and entered fleet service in 1993. The ES-3 is a carrier-based, subsonic, all-weather, long-range, electronic reconnaissance aircraft. It operates primarily with carrier battle groups providing Indications and Warning (I&W) support to the battle group and joint theater commanders. It carries an extensive suite of electronic sensors and communications gear.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/aircraft/air-es3.html

SORRY FOR MY CAPITAL LETTERS, IT IS NOT FOR YOU MY FRIEND (FETT).

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