Singaporean Amphibous capability

last SG · 2004-08-17T11:45:05+00:00

U got pretty good eye sight. The picture is so small and u manage to count the wheels? *salute*

cleong SG

You have not seen the Centurion tanks. You have not seen the Apaches. Nor the overseas based F-16s that would come home in tense situations. You may have noted the aircraft but have you taken a closer look at what is displayed in front of them or is hanging off the weapons pylons?

Surely you know why the Apaches came about. And not just any AH-64A, this is the full-house LongBow Apache. The US would not tip the arms balance in the region un-necessarily unless there is a need for it, and the need is the prescence of the PT-91s.

Singapore treads a fine line between upsetting the neighbours and having a considerable deterrent force at hand. As I see it, that means to keep just barely enough within Singapore shores and keep the rest offshore with allies, ready to redeploy to defend Singapore when necessary.

This is pretty much common knowledge. Surely you, military tactician extraordinaire, knows that?

Manager433 SG

My son, do u think our SAF let NCC kids see classified equipments? Many more top secret equipments are not really 'weapons'. They can't be fired but do 'something' else...

YI SG

good. join the defence science & technology agency and put your creativity and curiousity to good use and come up with a exo-skeleton armour as light as feather, as tough as an abrams armor for plain soldiers like us.

SibeiSuayKia SG

tough , alot of hydraulics needed , basically it's impossible..to build something like "Zoids" or "Mechwarriors"

Too vulnearable...and too expensive , furthermore we haven't invented something called "Force fields"

When that time comes, singapore might not exist liao haha..

Obersturmfuhrer SG

First you blow your horn saying you've seen and know everything in our inventory, now you're doing a reverse flip by acknowledging there's something else. Rolling Eyes What are you, some arsehole's ("I-never-said-war") son?

Wooooooo, you've seen them all.......but have you actually used them? Do you know exactly what it takes to make them to just work? Do you even have the slightest idea what it takes to make it a lethal weapon?

Our AIs all shaking inside their hot seats in those Bionix and still can disembark and do a good job in overrunning opfor positions and yet this ALL-KNOWING "EXPERT" one small mistep already KPKP so much. Laughing

Obersturmfuhrer SG

Johnston, personally never had a chance to get close to those guns but was forced to go through target recogn test in Recon so is the external appearance diff (btw Fh2000 and Fh8 Cool an extra set of wheels? Wink

Actually YI, I believe it should be phrased as CNB built next to CAB since CAB was there first. Wink

esesce SG

Don't be a bigger jack arse than you already are. No army in the world (except maybe your Red Alert one) is dumb enough to tell the whole world what they have. For obvious reasons I can't mention what, but for armour alone there are already several "things" that is not mentioned on MINDEF website nor shown at army open house.

You can tell ppl not to act smart, but you fail to realise you're the biggest smart aleck here. U know peanuts but talk as if you're so military analyst. You're not even a farking recruit, so go suck on your lolly & stop disturbing us! Rolling Eyes

esesce SG

And you seriously think SAF will show a bunch of pimply faced school kids everything in their arsenal? Maybe if your father is Goh Chok Tong they may lah, but he's not your lao pei so too bad for you.

And as what YI said before, many things we have had long time ago but only recently then it was made known to public. CBRE & SOF being merely 2 of many examples. So you can bet your childish brain that there are other things which SAF have but will not be made known to the public till several years later.

esesce SG

Wouldn't it be better if you used your brains before you spoke? If you have armour equivelant to Abrams, do you have any idea how heavy the bloody IFV will be? In case you didn't notice, the SAF is into rapid deployment. SOmething which the US is only now adopting, hence their recent attempts to streamline their forces.

Let's see how fast you can deploy your IFVs, if they all had Abrams type armour. Rolling Eyes

esesce SG

You see, that's when his true colours come out. When it becomes bloody obvious to one & all that he knows shit & is just flapping his gums like some moronic retard. Rolling Eyes Laughing

esesce SG

Its ok, you can always deploy your Mammoth Tanks right? Rolling Eyes

tripwire SG

you here to play the fool isit?

Which also means densely-populated , the enemy uses cluster bombs your dead!

It's the same logic..enemy use 1 grenade, inside 1 small room , everything all gone liao..

changi isnt exactly a small room little boy... and when it comes to cluster bombs... we are THE ONLY DESIGNER,MANUFACTURER, STOCKPILER in south east asia.... and we sell cluster bombs too. wanna play cluster bomb with us.... they will regret it... Mr. Green

Please lor , If ASTROS fired at CNB , you think they will not spy whether will have "American Aircraft carriers"

i think you misundertsood.... even if there is no CVN in singapore.. malaysia being so dependent on foreign weapons and spareparts... would need foreign permission to start a war with us...

If they are willing to war with us , they will also be willing to kill some foreigners .

and after you killed thoudsands of their citizens with weapons made by their country... what do you think is the possibilities of obtainning additional spareparts, ammunitions or rockets from them? Twisted Evil

The moment you press that button , you must be ready for a suitable outcome..

no spareparts, no ammo, no rocket, no global support, no additional weapons... well.. i think its not too hard to see the outcome for malaysia.. though i doubt it would be "suitable" Mr. Green

Don't forget , MIG-29 is capable of pulling 9G(S) with their strong airframe..
your missiles to them is nothing..after they get AWACS+ MID-AIR REFUELING

you mean those fulcrum A that malaysia dug out of the russian CFE scrapyard with a shovel? wow..... they must be proud of their russian junk. Mr. Green Cool

And btw, ASTERS costs more then the ASTROS....

ASTROS and ASTERS is apple and orange... not same... you wanna compare, then you should compare their ASTROS with our CARGOs. ours is cheap like hell but equally deadly. in fact... for the price of a single ASTRO rocket, we can buy 1,000 CARGOs. Twisted Evil

ASTERS is a guided system and ASTROS is basically unguided system..
what a "Trade off"

different weapon class lah... u might as well compare submarine with helicopter... Wink

If the enemy is willing , they would certainly bomb the runway like siao..

just like we will... bomb their runway like siao... but at least we got the techs, planes and weapons to do so... while they can only do so in their dream.

Those RMAF pilots are not dumb...lol , giving the need for Singapore to OWN STVOL fighters like F-35,I believe the northern pple now also know where our bases is located..

everyone knows where is everyones base.... unless they are underground.

If they know where our "major" airbases is....we are seriously..DISABLED...
With F-35 STOVL fighters located around singapore , i feel it's a better alternative to keep it until the "airstrips" get repaired

sorry chap... but F-35 aint in full production yet...

Problem is , they could have some sorta landing strip in johor for re-fueling and stuffs..

eh.... didnt you know? if war starts.. my units are tasked with capturing their johor senai airport and turn it into a makeshift RSAF advance air base for the helos and fighters.*joking* Mr. Green

Worst thing , they call in their "southern friend"

call in their southern friend to take over east malaysia? how nice.... but then we could call in our northern friend aka thailand... together both THAILAND and SINGPORE's 800+ MBT and LTs vs MAF's 25 scorpion... poor malaysia...

1. Cornered entirely

you mean malaysia....

How are you going to fight your way out?

you mean how malaysia is gonna fight against INDONESIA, SINGAPORE and THAILAND from 3 front... 25 scorpion vs 1200+ tanks... sure mati. Mr. Green

I read that the LEKIU-class naval ships is one of the most advanced in South East Asia..

no lah... they bullshit one lah... the most advanced ship in south east asia belong to the THAI navy's NARUSUAN FFG, until our DELTA's become operational.

anyway... what can 2 LEKIU do? you think they got a dozen har?

To my fellow singaporeans:
"1 think you all don't know , is that reclaimed land soil is weaker then normal land soil...1 example of NICOLL highway , guess those pple on the top
didn't think about it huh?

Seriously , to destroy a base built on reclaim land is much easier.."

much easier your head.... the strength of the base is not dependent on the land that it is built upon... but by the design of the base, the materials used to build the base and its construction quality.

you might not have heard, but recently, afew malaysian base build on NONRECLAIMED land was falling apart even before becoming operational... Laughing

Please , if they wanna attack , they can do so , anytime..
we got 4 million pple , they got over 220 million...this is a malay peninsula and malay area stretching from southern thailand to almost papua new guinea..

but the world is a much bigger place... in asia alone... there are over 1.6 billion yellow skin and 1.1 billion indians.

between peninsula malaysia and singapore... there are more yellow skins then brown skins.... (remember why singapore was kicked out of the federation? Mr. Green )

We are seriously outnumbered......so if a possible war scenario happens , they can throw in as many troops as they want..

throw into the sea? you obviously didnt realise... war aint cheap.. and war is more about money then manpower.

They are giving singapore "Face" by letting us....a mini chinese enclave and an "odd thumb" reside in Singapore , think we should compromise in times of war..and sign more peace treaties

we are willing to compromise... if they are will to compromise... but dont expect us to give in to them... why should we? we are stronger then them. and they need us more then we need them. Wink

Can you fight these?? I dread these weapons..all possessed by Malaysia

you mean the 2 ship, 8 hornet, 17 scrapyard fulcrum and 0 tanks? yes 0 tanks... they dont have MBT right now....

if you are afraid of those small ikan bilis... wait till you see from their perspective of facing down 70+ falcons, 20 APACHE, 80 TEMPEST, blah blah blah blah.... Mr. Green

i have wasted enough time with you NCC cadet... come back after your NS... then we will talk man to man.... Wink

SibeiSuayKia SG

ya, mammoth tanks have double turrets...and anti air-craft missiles

SibeiSuayKia SG

changi isnt exactly a small room little boy... and when it comes to cluster bombs... we are THE ONLY DESIGNER,MANUFACTURER, STOCKPILER in south east asia.... and we sell cluster bombs too. wanna play cluster bomb with us.... they will regret it...

Never underestimate the opponent.

i think you misundertsood.... even if there is no CVN in singapore.. malaysia being so dependent on foreign weapons and spareparts... would need foreign permission to start a war with us...

They can always buy from Russian and the Chinese , after China was on a deal with Malaysia to sell them missiles

If they are willing to war with us , they will also be willing to kill some foreigners .

Russians , they can always stockpile

no spareparts, no ammo, no rocket, no global support, no additional weapons... well.. i think its not too hard to see the outcome for malaysia.. though i doubt it would be "suitable"

They also got something called "secret purchases" as well

you mean those fulcrum A that malaysia dug out of the russian CFE scrapyard with a shovel? wow..... they must be proud of their russian junk.
Those fulcrum A are due to be upgraded soon

just like we will... bomb their runway like siao... but at least we got the techs, planes and weapons to do so... while they can only do so in their dream.
They can do so definitely , with the mid-air refueling and the aircraft carrier they want to buy

Worst thing , they call in their "southern friend"

call in their southern friend to take over east malaysia? how nice.... but then we could call in our northern friend aka thailand... together both THAILAND and SINGPORE's 800+ MBT and LTs vs MAF's 25 scorpion... poor malaysia...

Sorry to say but , Indonesia together. , Thailand basically wouldnt give a damn , even their own military facing problems with launching the mini aircraft carrier and battling the insurgents.. as well.

FYI , M'sia doesn't have 25 scorpion only ...they are getting much more PT-91 MBT

1. Cornered entirely

SG << refering to

How are you going to fight your way out?

Why would a country which , last time launched KONFRONTASI , and has humans right crisis in 1998 against yellow pple help yellow pple?

Why would a country whose President call a group of yellow pple as a little red dot and help them?

[b]no lah... they bull#!%! one lah... the most advanced ship in south east asia belong to the THAI navy's NARUSUAN FFG, until our DELTA's become operational. [/b]http://www.naval-technology.com << bullshlting ? i take info from here

anyway... what can 2 LEKIU do? you think they got a dozen har?

To my fellow singaporeans:
"1 think you all don't know , is that reclaimed land soil is weaker then normal land soil...1 example of NICOLL highway , guess those pple on the top
didn't think about it huh?

Seriously , to destroy a base built on reclaim land is much easier.."

much easier your head.... the strength of the base is not dependent on the land that it is built upon... but by the design of the base, the materials used to build the base and its construction quality.

you might not have heard, but recently, afew malaysian base build on NONRECLAIMED land was falling apart even before becoming operational...

Please , if they wanna attack , they can do so , anytime..
we got 4 million pple , they got over 220 million...this is a malay peninsula and malay area stretching from southern thailand to almost papua new guinea..

but the world is a much bigger place... in asia alone... there are over 1.6 billion yellow skin and 1.1 billion indians.
>>> what makes u think the rest of 1.596 billion yellow skin will help you?

between peninsula malaysia and singapore... there are more yellow skins then brown skins.... (remember why singapore was kicked out of the federation? )

>>>> So ? Can they aid the war effort?

Can you fight these?? I dread these weapons..all possessed by Malaysia

you mean the 2 ship, 8 hornet, 17 scrapyard fulcrum and 0 tanks? yes 0 tanks... they dont have MBT right now....

>>> sorry , ive seen the langkawi airshow before , and u all at military nuts keep on making fun of their military..like how ang moh make fun of japanese..last time..

Thier MIG-29 is in perfect condition i would say ...did a flip upwards at 90 degrees...and turned..in mid-air..without any mishaps..

if you are afraid of those small ikan bilis... wait till you see from their perspective of facing down 70+ falcons, 20 APACHE, 80 TEMPEST, blah blah blah blah....

>>>>> 70 falcons no point having if you can't have proper base facilities to store them with HAS(hardened air shelter)

Apache, some of it training in U.S.A ...

YI SG

oh.. perhaps.. i never know which constructions started out first.. but i do know that the CAB 'colours' was only officially revealed during last year SAF Day. Thanks for correcting me. Smile

YI SG

aiyoh.. give the kid a break. logic are on our side.. don't need to sound so hostile. maybe i am new here.. thinking of converting him.. hahah.. Smile

storywolf SG

Sibeisuaykia, that is why you NCC ! those are the stuff which they let little NCC boys see also those are the things they have shown on websites and to other military attachees......

Well it is what the NCC boys don't see !!! so grow up first .

storywolf SG

Sibeisuaykia
1st thing the AMX-13 is still good enough to shoot the shit out of anything, also light enough for our environment so as not to get struck in mud like main battle tanks.

Corvettes are design and build ( 1st one oversea) with the help of expert shipyard to tap their knowledge then the others are build locally, this is good, so that in event of damage, we can self repair and no need to send to german for repair !!!

You want to know where the fucking money goes to !!! that is to send on open house to educate idiots and moron like you !!! Pls don't bring more shame to NCC !!! What they teaching you there - you have zero knowledge on weapons, zero knowledge of Singapore , guess I am correct you school NCC just turn you to mindless zombie that live to talk cock !!!

Yep creative sound card also make in Singapore, guess if so many PC world wide is using it without problem, so go back to be your talk cock zombie.

dragonstar SG

Seeing the equipment doesn't mean anything - for example, Bionix are not tanks.

SibeiSuayKia SG

The British thought that the tanks would be stucked in the mud in WWII and didn't use it against the Japs =)

Ya, but built in locally got standard 1 anotZ?

Sorry , Creative sound card outsourced to other countries..

Even my creative mp3 player made in malaysia...(our compeititor)

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