Singapore Mutiny 1915 and the PDF

idwar SG

On 15 Feb 1915, 815 Indian Muslim soldiers of the 5th Light Infantry Battalion with 100 men of the Malay States Guides Mule Battery rebelled against their British officers in Singapore and killed 3 of them.

A party of 100 mutineers then marched to Tanglin Barracks where they killed all the sentries. Other mutineers went on a killing spree at Keppel Harbour and Pasir Panjang killing many men and women including a judge.

The general population stayed calm as the part-time soldiers of the forerunners of the PDF fought the rebels. (see http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/pdf_heritage.htm )

A large number of the mutineers were later caught and executed in public. The largest involved a firing squad of 110 troops shooting 22 mutineers at Outram Park.

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Singapore troops rebel this time round?
Will the old folks of the PDF once again be required to stop undisciplined troops in the future ???
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Obersturmfuhrer SG

Our soldiers rebelling? You living in one of your fantasies again? Rolling Eyes

Meremere SG

Hi, new here,

More details of the mutiny can be found here:

http://www.myfareast.org/SingaporeMemorials/SingaporeMutiny.html

storywolf SG

1915, Singapore not independent yet, it is past history !!! You may well bring out the over turning of Dynasties in CHina and India also ........ Maybe post the "mutiny of the bounty" here also..... !

Topic is totally wrong titled.

dragonstar SG

Yeah. Idwar up to his no good again. Distorting information to get us all worked up.

|-|05| SG

orhhhhh the sepoy mutiny.............the sepoy contingient was pissed off that the British was fighting in India or something lah.......they were nervous.....then some rumour came up that they were gonna be sent there or sent to Europe for the great war.They panic and started the mutiny.
Although i honestly think that the PDF would be the 1's refusing orders more then anything else.

Slywong SG

I think you can see this on Next Monday, True Files Season 3…....

|-|05| SG

nope the truefiles thingy is about Pulau Senang(sic). The island which we now know as the SAF live fire area was once our version of the rock(alcatraz sp?)it was a horrible place that death row and lifers were sent too.The warden was a bitch of a fellow and thus the people plotted to break out.The over powered the guards and killed them all.The warden was hung,had his eyes cut out and his balls cut off.Some fled to Indonasia while the rest were caught or killed by the British army or police sent there.
This is what my dad told me.He was young when this happened so it might be alittle off but the base facts are there

khyron1 SG

Oh, ave read this b4. The provocator was a german officer from raiding cruiser SMS Emden. Nice eh, trying to gain allies in the East?

idwar SG

From the website provided by Meremere above, I found the following sentance:

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"Boy Scouts rendered valuable service by taking over from the police and army the duties of dispatch riders, telephone operators and clerks "
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Wah-Lau ! Boy scouts take over Police and army..........shy lah. Singapore...

SibeiSuayKia SG

The fact is that IF humans don't learn, only show that HISTORY will repeat itself in the FUTURE

dragonstar SG

For simple brainless jobs like telephone operators etc, Boys Scouts are overkill. Even people like you Idwar, would not coc.k-it-up. On second thoughts, I think I would prefer to entrust monkeys instead.

dragonstar SG

Malaysia, Indonesia massacre Aceh refugees
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Thousands of Acehnese fled to neighbouring Malaysia where many have languished in appalling conditions in detention camps for years.

Under pressure from Jakarta, Malaysia reclassified the Acehnese as economic refugees. On March 26, Malaysian authorities suddenly moved to forcibly repatriate hundreds of Acehnese refugees housed in several camps.

The Aceh Merdeka representatives say that the Malaysian police, who control the detention camps, drugged the refugees' food the night before. Elite police units in full riot gear and attack dogs then surrounded the camps at dawn.

The refugees, fearing for their lives if returned to Indonesia, fought back with their bare hands. At the Semenyih centre, police fired on the refugees with automatic rifles, killing at least 24, according to refugee sources. Many others were severely wounded.

Deadly incidents also occurred at other detention centres, bringing the death toll to at least 30 before all the refugees were concentrated at the Lumut Naval Base in Perak state.

The Malaysian government claims that only eight refugees and one police officer were killed in the riots at the detention centres.

Some 545 refugees were put aboard Indonesian navy ships on March 29. At least eight refugees died en route to Lhokseumawe in Aceh. The Malaysian authorities refused to give the wounded medical attention or even wash the blood from them before they were put aboard.
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Notice that in Singapore, Scouts helped against armed Soldiers. In Malaysia, Elite Police Units with automatic rifles are needed to handle bare-handed Indonesia refugees that were already drugged Exclamation .

Wah, shy lah, Malaysia.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1998/314/314p18b.htm

idwar SG

I think you are all in denial..........

Even the best army can mutiny if pushed beyond the limit......in Vietnam, the US soldiers throw fragmentation grenades at their hopeless officers.......Japanese soldiers shoot their officers in the back in Manchuria......the list goes on.........

Singapore soldier so perfect-ah ?

SibeiSuayKia SG

Originally posted by dragonstar:

Malaysia, Indonesia massacre Aceh refugees
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Thousands of Acehnese fled to neighbouring Malaysia where many have languished in appalling conditions in detention camps for years.

Under pressure from Jakarta, Malaysia reclassified the Acehnese as economic refugees. On March 26, Malaysian authorities suddenly moved to forcibly repatriate hundreds of Acehnese refugees housed in several camps.

The Aceh Merdeka representatives say that the Malaysian police, who control the detention camps, [b]drugged the refugees' food the night before. Elite police units in full riot gear and attack dogs then surrounded the camps at dawn.

The refugees, fearing for their lives if returned to Indonesia, fought back with their bare hands. At the Semenyih centre, police fired on the refugees with automatic rifles, killing at least 24, according to refugee sources. Many others were severely wounded.

Deadly incidents also occurred at other detention centres, bringing the death toll to at least 30 before all the refugees were concentrated at the Lumut Naval Base in Perak state.

The Malaysian government claims that only eight refugees and one police officer were killed in the riots at the detention centres.

Some 545 refugees were put aboard Indonesian navy ships on March 29. At least eight refugees died en route to Lhokseumawe in Aceh. The Malaysian authorities refused to give the wounded medical attention or even wash the blood from them before they were put aboard.
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Notice that in Singapore, Scouts helped against armed Soldiers. In Malaysia, Elite Police Units with automatic rifles are needed to handle bare-handed Indonesia refugees that were already drugged Exclamation .

Wah, shy lah, Malaysia.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1998/314/314p18b.htm
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entire BS! i didn't saw it in malaysian newspaper the STAR or the straits times!

SibeiSuayKia SG

Singaporean soldier not as perfect as UNIVERSAL soldier..RAMBO or ROBOCOP

Neither does Singaporean Soldier is combat-proven

but Singaporean soldier to programmed at the NS whereby they are trained to think that defending singapore is a noble cause.

Same thing as what happened in Japan, taught to "de-colonise" Asia by the Sun God aka Emperor

Meremere SG

You can't expect anything else from a far left organisation like the Greens Very Happy If we are to look for everything that is bad or negative about a certain country we will eventually find it. An example that would make Sg look bad can be found in this statement:

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/workers_rights/wr_se_asia/wr_singapore/wr_chee/chee.htm

dragonstar SG

Another piece of illogical nonsensical conclusion from a small boy. It does not mean that you have not read it in the STAR or Straits Times then it did not happen.

I have not seen it reported in STAR or Straits Times that you are a male or Singaporean. In fact, I could not find it in the two sources that you exist - therefore, you must be a figment of my imagination.

dragonstar SG

Yep, I agree that if one dig deep enough, we can almost certainly find even the most obscure piece of information to support one's views.

Incidentally, I have nothing against Malaysia in general - except for Idwar whose sole purpose of existence appeared to be to foment ill feelings between us and our brotherly state. Therefore, the mudslinging.

pufferfish_79 SG

[quote]Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:

Singaporean soldier not as perfect as UNIVERSAL soldier..RAMBO or ROBOCOP
Neither does Singaporean Soldier is combat-proven
but Singaporean soldier to programmed at the NS whereby they are trained to think that defending singapore is a noble cause.
Same thing as what happened in Japan, taught to "de-colonise" Asia by the Sun God aka Emperor

[quote]Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
entire BS! i didn't saw it in malaysian newspaper the STAR or the straits times!

NorthLanders are brought up to believe :

1. Every single word that their politicians say,( remember Pedra Branca issue?)
2. What their Media choose to report , or rather CHOOSE TO DISTORT( again recall Pedra Branca issue )
3. That every single defence weapon a country owned it kindly put the list on its armed forces' webby
4.owning many variety of weapons platform are good... the more the merrier