Signing on with foreign militaries

Sardaukar SG

Just wondering if there are any restrictions on signing on with foreign militaries after you finish your NS?

Are there restrictions placed upon you from serving with the militaries of other countries,such as if you decided to sign on with the Israeli military,or served in the nation of a Commonwealth country such as the UK or another ally such as the US?

Similarly,if you were to return with combat experience from these militaries and chose to sign on with the SAF,would you gain any benefits from it,as the SAF would in turn be getting an combat experienced soldier with exposure to military methods of other nations as well as Singapore.

SibeiSuayKia SG

can serve, but hopefully not TNI , TUDM?

rofl

storywolf SG

You be are directly or indirectly transfering or disclosing military knowledge of SAF ! So I let you be the judge yourself, would you be breaking any rights if you are still citizen of Singapore ?

Moxie SG

Does the other armed forces accept foreigners? Even if you changed citizenships either way, you can expect to be heavily - if quietly - scrutinized as a possible security threat, maybe for the rest of your life, even if you're no secret agent.

I do think it's possible to join up with the French Foreign Legion or any shadowy mercenary group - or go fight with the Mujahideens in Afghanistan like some local JI members did - but it's likely the Singapore ISD will track you. That's what happened to Ibrahim Maidin & company, though the arrests came only with evidence of alleged terrorist activities - which in this case was the Yishun-MRT videotapes.

Johnston SG

Remember the form that you sign when you leave the army.
Which is within a certain period of years you cannot disclose any info about the SAF. The period is at least 3 if i remember right, but more if you have a CAT1/1A Clearance.

And you must take into mind, most countries take in recruits who are citizens of their own country.

Which is to say you must emigrate, and be an citizen before even signing up.
I can do some research with the US Army's requirements if you so wish.

And as for "combat experienced soldier with exposure to military methods of other nations as well as Singapore", we do have a amount of such people due to our sending some men overseas for courses, such as SEAL, Ranger, Artilllery cses and such.

John Ching SG

Yes, you can join the French Foreign Legion, U.S military, U.K military & a few others. But I know for certain the Israeli military won't take in non-jews.

The thing is, except for the French Foreign Legion, you've to be a citizern of the country inorder to join the military proper. Otherwise, you'll be assigned to non-combatives duties. This means that you can't have 2 citizernship.

Hmm! I don't think you can join a foreign military just for the purpose of experience & then returned to your country of origin to serve back in its military. The foreign military can prosecute you as a spy, while your own country military can't trust you. Also, theres the age factor involve. When you join a foreign military, example, U.S Marines, you'll have to go through the basic trainning even though you've done it in your own country military. After basic trainning, you'll have to see which unit you'll be assigned to. Then you've to go through advance trainning in the unit you are assigned to before you can be certified as combat ready. So by the time you've finished your tour of duties with the Marines, I don't think you'll want to wear another unifor again. It can be quite depressing. Neutral

Sardaukar SG

I know about the age thing,the above is a hypothetical question.

I have entertained the thought of doing just that but it involves a large investment of time and I decided against it.

But wouldn't it be useful if we were to say make an arrangement with some countries which actively use military forces in combat conditions?

We could arrange to have a detachment of selected or voluntary troops attached to a foreign military and expose them to combat conditions,such as working with the Israeli military or Brazilian military police units in urban areas,or sending out more peacekeepers to combat zones,then having these experienced personnel rotate into training roles.

This would allow some level of veterancy to be retained in the ranks and 'leak' down into personnel in combat vocations.

khyron1 SG

I don’t think they will allow practically ‘newbies’ from foreign land to join in in what is essentially domestic problems. It will further complicate matters if the contingent got into harm’s way and came off worse, esp. if it is done covertly.

John Ching SG

khyron1 assessment is right. Besides, S'pore army is a defensive force not an offensive force. Then theres the question of government responsibilities if a S'pore soldier is killed while fighting for a foreign country's domestic problem. Is it the S'pore government responsibility or the country in which the soldier fought in responsibility?

I understand that S'pore had a detachment sent to East Timor sometime back. That was on behalf of the U.N security council which meant that had a S'pore soldier been killed in East Timor, 3/4 of the responsibility would be covered by the U.N security council while the remaining 1/4 responsibility belong to the S'pore government. Rolling Eyes

If S'pore government wants to volunteer its forces, like Japan's forces in Iraq, it'll have to bear the entire responsibilities of its forces in combat.
Neutral

But isn't it true that S'pore does have foreign troops visiting quite offen for trainning? Isn't that as much an exchange of military experience? I remember there were S'pore troops going to Haiwai to train with the U.S MARINEs. Mr. Green

[email protected] SG

if u're a muhajadeen vet from afghanistan or a NVA vet from the Vietnam war, can u sign on?

thats if u don't actually require a zimmer frame to walk. Laughing lao ah peh liao la. trick question