China's Aircraft Carriers

last SG · 2004-10-10T16:26:41+00:00

Have you even visited china before Sibeisuaykia ? You are just a mountain tortise and just laughin from the well of the outside world which you didn't even k...

ray243 SG

hmm…wonder how force z will fair at battle of java sea, unless japans divert more ships to S.E.A , they will suffer at great defeat or think twice before attacking with the battleship and battlecaruiser and not to mention carrier around.

tvdog SG

Maybe you are no longer Chinese, but I am Singaporean and am very proud to be of the Chinese race. We are a great race and culture.

I feel sorry for you that you think western culture is so "progressive". Well, eat more kantan, dye your hair blonde and bleach your skin and you might just succeed in "progressing" yourself into a white man.

sgdiehard SG

This guy can't have any chinese heritage if he calls chinese "chins", like calling a Negro "Nigger". He also doesn't know any history. Many bananas acknowledge their situation, many are trying to find their roots and identities, but they don't look down on their own or other heritage. This one is rotton bananas, if he has yellow skin. His parents must be so progressive that they moved on ahead of him, that is why he he needs to progress.

Johnston SG

Are you aware of the massed IJN carrier group they had in operation?
Not to forget their two big BBs, namely Yamato and Musashi.

So Prince of Wales + Repulse wouldn't have made too much of a difference.

spencer99 SG

The Yamato and Musashi are not operational at the start of WW2. There are also no major IJN a/c carriers during that phase of the campaign in SEA. The air cover of the operation is solely land-based.

If a RN carrier is part of Force Z, it would probably provide some scouting capability for the two surface ships, but I doubt that that the obsolete swordfish Torpedo bombers will have any hope against the invasion fleet.

I don't see how a handful of Fulmar fighters could protect the BB and BC. And the carrier herself would make a fine target.

Even if they drive off the attacking bombers if we look at the performance fo allied ships at the battle of java sea, don't think the Repulse or POW will actually drive off or destroy the invasion fleet.

So the fall of Spore is inevitable.

Johnston SG

Oops.
Pearl Harbor = Dec 7 1941
Force Z's dispatchement = 25 Oct 1941
Force Z's sinking = 10 dec 1941

Final fitting out - Musashi = 28 sep 1942

It's implausible that the Pearl Harbor strike force could have went to singapore, just to whack force Z. Smile

Really, an extra two ships wouldnt have made too much difference at the Battle of Java sea.

ray243 SG

maybe not, due to the fact that at java sea, the largest ship japenese sent out was only heavy cruiser and no battleship nor carriers. A more powerful force of battleship and battlecruiser could eaily win against the IJN and also given the fact the the japan's navy is too preoccupied, maybe not much ships could be sent to java sea.

however, i'm not too sure whether battle of java sea the japanese ships had air cover or not...but likely with prince of wales and repulse, the allies may win and java may not fall to the japs, then british may be able to retake singapore sooner before 1945.

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