New PDW by DSTA

SpecOps87 SG

Hey,any of you guys been to the recent Army Open House 2004?The DSTA has created a new Personnal Defence Weapon with a selective fire capability and has a 40 round magazine.Anyone seen how cheap and plastic the weapon looks like?Hopefully its still in the early protype stage.

If anyone has seen it,please feel free to add your comments.And if you have taken pictures of it,please feel free to add it here.To the dear boys in DSTA,please,weapons are for combat and rough usage.I sure wish that I would not have to use something which is not able to take the thrills and spills of military life.

esesce SG

Go to ST Kinetics website. Picture & info of this weapon have been there for many months liao.

fett SG

er, bo leh. which one you talking about?

fett SG

if you meant SSW, then ya, saw it. pretty ‘nifty.

foxtrout8 SG

Er.. the SSW is not a PDW.

Darn, i went to the open house on saturday and monday, the best part is, i didnt make an effort to visit the warrior's hall. Anyone with the picture?

fett SG

Personal Defence Weapon
As a personal defence weapon, the SSW is customised for smaller and more powerful PDW ammunition such as 5.7mm. It can also be configured for 4.6mm PDW calibre, according to the customer's requirements. It comes with a 20 round magazine, and can engage targets of up to 200m.

Designed to combat the demands of urban warfare, ST Kinetics' SSW offers a lethal 2-in-1 combination, packed into a light weight, compact and ergonomic design.

that's what it says there on the site.

foxtrout8 SG

Can you please provide the link? Thankyou.

In my knowledge of PDW, it for a start have to be light, compact. The main objective of a PDW is for certain troops working in confined environment who need a weapon that can provide a higher volume of fire, further range and more penetration power than an automatic pistol and if possible, more compact than a submachine gun. A good example of a PDW is the P-90 which is used by snipers (as a secondary weapon), tankees and pilots in foreign service.

The SSW (squad support weapon) under my knowledge is not a personal defence weapon as it is too large, bulky and heavy to be one. It is a support weapon belonging to the class of the old M-16/M-203 combi and the OCIW. Perhaps the SSW can fire the special 5.7mm round that the P90 PDW can fire but the SSW is still a SSW not a PDW.

For more visual reference of a PDW, please refer to the MP5K-PDW and the G-11 PDW.

fett SG

http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=221

hope this work

fett SG

ah salah, this is the one

http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=218

foxtrout8 SG

I think what it mean is that the SSW consist of a PDW as well as a grenade launcher, something like the OICW which consist of component sections. However if the ST staff will to tell mi that the SSW as a whole is a PDW, i will certainly not give credit to that. It is as good as saying the SAR-21 is a submachine gun and the Ultimax is a assualt rifle.

My two cents. Thanks for the link.

tvdog SG

The FN P-90 is also used by SAF Special Forces or Commandos.

I have seen many pictures of these people with the FN P-90 with scope mount and silencer.

I don't know how they are organised but there were 2 guys out of about 20 whom were armed like this. So I suspect they must be doing what US would call "Hush Puppy" work. Basically their job is to silence the sentries.

The rest were armed with normal or short versions of the SAR-21.

And I think they picked the 5.7mm P-90 is because its smaller bullet is easier to silence than a 5.56mm bullet, but at the same time still having more range and power than a pistol round like a 9mm.

If you put a silencer on an M-4 like the Americans, then you would end up with a very long weapon so it is not very ideal.

foxtrout8 SG

The P90 PDW is so silent that the metal rounds hitting the floor is louder than the firing itself.

mr_sotong SG

look like toy gun..... Surprised

tankee1981 SG

I think it looks more like a futuristic weapon from a science fiction movie....Looks rather bulky to me.... Very Happy