NS SUCKS

last SG · 2004-03-27T02:40:27+00:00

dun worry...steph also agree ns sucks

ditzy SG

Sad to say, the real world is manufactured. Its nothing more than a big movie made to look good. But this is what you learn from going thru all this. Life is not a bed of roses. No pansies.

Patrik SG

NS dun really sucks loh...At least during ns..u are taught things which u wun be taught in the outside world...
And during NS....U wil learn to be more disciplined....
NS is the time u transform from a boy into a MAN

Moonstriker SG

har? how bad is it? i tink i mono intake lehz... juz got letter fr medcheckup. :/

OldFriend SG

The SAF is like a dam holding back the swirling floodwater of hostilities. Each man in the SAF is a boulder that forms the dam. The swirling floodwater will try to find a loose boulder to burst through. If it succeeds. Our whole island will be submerged. Every man, every link is important. The SAF is only as strong as the weakest link.

Its a pity, we have weaklings like you around, obviously you have never tasted a life of brotherhood and camarederie. I suggest you renouce your citizenship and avoid staining the essense of our existence. [/quote]

wombat SG

Well said...echos more or less my thoughts exactly. Cool

For those who are serving, or yet to enlist..............SAF is not just about military training, is also about human management and interaction. Each of us come from different background, lifestyle and culture.......One has to learn, adapt and co-exist with others. For those who's parents are protective, and "shield" them from the world, I guess is a rude shock.

There are bound to be black sheep, like back stabbers, apple polishers, sabo kings....but I assure you that it's not that much different in the working world....sometimes your office is worse! SAF is just 2.5 yrs....if you can't adapt...the rest of your working life how ??

Is all in the brain.....if you think SAF sucks...and rotten...you will find your life inside miserable. If you go in with a positive, "can-do" attitude, learn to adapt, and shrug the unhappiness aside....Life in SAF can be fun, and interesting.

Life is not a bed of roses, is all about learning to make the best out of any situation....the mentality that determines the outcome...

Also.....the friendship that you form inside, will last over the years. It's not uncommon to call each other up for some favor or assistance in office work/personal stuff after SAF. Try not make "enemies" inside SAF also....who knows...they may end up as your boss or supervisor. Worse...you might even lose a business deal.

In short...go in with a open mind, positive attitude!

The above is my personal view, not aimed or directed at anyone. No offense of anykind meant.... Just in case......SAF lesson...cover backside. Mr. Green

[email protected] SG

back in NCC(kids in uniform Mr. Green ) I had the great opportunity to sleep in a run down bunk and stay in a falling apart camp. to be honest the sponge matress is actually pretty comfy too!
anyways i feel maybe becos of my NCC experience, where we wore 1 uniform for 6 days straight, helped me to appreciate tekong BMTC much more

larrenV2.003 SG

I also must admit that NS do sucks in some way lah but there r some good points in it even though i hate ns...........

Ever since i log on to the sgforums i've been seeing forumite posting something like ns sucks & whatever.......really hor i individually can't change the mindsets of ppl hating NS but one of the paracounseller enlighten me with the christian poem when i told him that i hated ns. Here as it says:

God, grant me the
serenity to accept
things i cannot change
courage to change the
things i can
and wisdom to know
the difference

If u r a christian it should not be a prob 4 u. I hope these piece of msg can make u have 2nd thoughts abt ns...... Wink

Moonstriker SG

Nice....

Ogbunwezeh SG

I personally think tat NS is important n i really support NS. Its the system and the way they work tat make it a bit fuck up tats why most ppl feel tat NS is a burden or hassel…. One thing i cannot understand is why SAF allow teenager to take on the role of officer… Some of them r still not mature n act childishly, this really make my eye sore… My warrant officer once told me tat last time when he was young he also has the same feeling as me but now older liao he juz dun care abt them anymore… I also hear ppl saying tat SAF is a dumping ground for those ppl tat cannot survive in the commercial sector hence sign on as SAF will so call give them the security they need… Maybe this is the reason why sometime we feel its so fuck up as we r working under those scumbags of the society… I have posted to 4 different units before n i notice tat esp the management eg DY manager, AO etc r all really cannot make it if they wanna go outside n work…. Hmmm to be fair mayb i sway as i haven’t get to work under those good one…

sepjc96 SG

and the sponge mattress have hell lot of bed bugs if u forget to mention, i was in PLC and had sleepless nite...

Kaczynski SG

Yikes, bed bugs weren't the only organisms "living" on the mattress for all that matters...

Not from PLC (they were moving to PTek. when I was in BMT)but slept those old old pattern SAF "beds" before.. Neutral

Flashgalaxy SG

A minority might like NS based on their personal experience or situation. Guys who have gone through OCS may feel that NS has improved their leadership qualities etc...

But to the majority of average male youths,NS is a costly waste of time mann. Its killing the motivation of the young male population in singapore... no one seems to truly care about the defence of singapore... all just wanna do the basic necessary to serve and F off! Everyday bumping around, doing Sai kang and pretending to be patriotic (wayang) when the high ranking clowns are walking around... Why do we continue to bluff ourselves & uphold this NS?
One word "FEAR" (DB, AWOL, Sign Extra etc...) sigh...

Damn the SAF & Goverment for putting us into this position!!

There are so many negative aspects and discrepancies in the whole system of NS. Its really sad...

NathanG5 SG

sorry it aint the minority..its the majority who like NS..
hey it aint our problem if u dun like NS..so wat if u dun like NS?
who cares? Rolling Eyes
its yourself..y blame others?

dragonstar SG

In my thread Singapore bashing, I made a similar suggestion regarding citizenship and received a lot of flak for it. You must be doing something right OldFriend - keep it up.

Anyway I share the same sentiments as you.

dragonstar SG

Hear, hear (clap, clap, clap ...)

<sk> SG

Well, I'm pretty confident of my men, my company and the battalion to fight against the enemy. Without the training in Thailand, Burnei and Taiwan, it would'nt have prepared them for a real fight.

Being both an Inf cmdr and assigned to numerous SO missions, I usually see cockups when men are lazy to learn how to do proper fire movement or not looking who is in front before throwing a hand grenade (Thunderflash) into the trench which ended up in the man's SBO, not learning how to prone properly and bangs his teeth against the M16, during Live Firing or L/F not pointing the gun striaght to the target and endangering people's lives... tons of other stupid incidents which could have turned out to be a dangerous one.

Its up to you to defend your country. Eventually, you might have kids and a family or a gay/lesbian partner or noone but you still have your parents/siblings or relatives still in Singapore to look after.

Dan Ryou Shou SG

i agree…

Gedanken SG

You seem to have gotten things arse-end-round. Your attitude doesn't come from having been stuck with the sh*t jobs - you got stuck with the sh*t jobs because of your attitude.

Flashgalaxy SG

I dont speak based on my perception. I observe and wiitness the many discrepancies within the SAF including numerous feedback from many NSF men i interact with. Some have it good, others have it really bad and are complaining like crap. My overall experience serving NS is without doubt a waste of time. This is especially true for those with medical conditions and are very much "out of place"

I've did my part to fulfill my obligation in NS, abide by the rules and do the necessary. Winning the hearts and minds of the soldiers is the most important thing in peace time and we just dont see it....

The problem lies in the SAF's system of conducting national service and the duration.

I have witness 2 cases of suicide and 8 cases of soldiers reporting with depression among many others within the few 2mths. The level of Motivation in the SAF is appalling. Malingering, AWOL seems to have topped the list among many others.

You guys may have yours views and i respect that. If you were put into our situation, maybe your opinion would be different.

Flashgalaxy SG

Originally posted by :

Its up to you to defend your country. Eventually, you might have kids and a family or a gay/lesbian partner or noone but you still have your parents/siblings or relatives still in Singapore to look after.

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War would never be fought in Singapore. If it did, we would not be able to defend it. I don't believe in war, rather dipomatic means to solve disputes.

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