To mentally weak clowns like you who can't take the training and
the regimental life, it is bullSHIT and a liability. So in your
opinion what is not bullSHIT?
I have seen people from non-conscription countries
perform as well, if not much better in these areas. They are also
more innovative, have a less regard for authority when they sense
no need to and generally more flexible and tactful in their ways.
There is much better ways to built character and boarden horizons
then submit yourself to unnessary suffering and at times
humiliation. I think the same results can be achieved with much
less suffering and time spent in the process.
Did you conduct a statistical investigation on that? Is that the
only conclusion you can draw from your biased study? Did you
examined conscription in Israel and other countries beside the ones
you mentioned? For you information, conscription has no bearing on
a person's innovativeness. It is rather the education and the way a
person is brought up that influence it. One good example, if
conscription is bad for being innovative, pray tell me how is it
that an israeli was the person that came up with corner shot (a
device that allows a gun to be fired at an angle). Having less
regard for authority and being flexible and tactful is not the
result of no conscription, it is the way a society that a person is
brought up in that is the cause. You might think that less regard
of authority is good, maybe sometimes in terms of work. However,
would you like to live in a society where people just come in and
rob you? Would you like your kid to shout at you "Hey, dickhead,
where's my allowance?"
In contrast, I see a painfully obvious lack of
self-confidence in the males of those whose country have
conscription that those that dont. They tend to not be able to mix
with people of other races and culture and only mix around with
others of their same background.
These include Taiwanese, Koreans & Singaporeans. They become
uncomfortable around people of different culture and they need to
be around their own people to constantly reassure themselves that
they exist.
Don't you think this is generalising the whole lot. I studied in
UK and being around a lot and I don't see that happening often?
Singapore students in Oxford, Cambridge and other UK universities
that I met do not seem to possess the trait you mentioned. I see
students from Singapore, Taiwan, Korea mixing around with the
locals. At times when they keep to themselves, that's when the
local actually doesn't wish to mix with them.
A personal friend who is a professor in MIT told me how
they view Singaporeans in general . Lack of courage to fail. Oh
sure, they will write a lot of ideas and creative proposals, but
since they are so afraid to fail, they will finally choose the
ideas that are most fail- prove and unfortunately the most
lack-lusture ones. It gets worse with scholars or staff from
government related companies as they rather not do anything then to
risk upsetting their status- quo. Tell me, dont you think most
singaporeans are like that?
So what has these got to do with NS? This seems to me that this
is due to the sheltered life in Singapore that is the cause of
these and not the result of NS.
As much as I think Singaporeans need NS, it is slowly
killing off the fighting spirits of the people ( particularly male
) as a whole. Its the throw the frog in hot water or slowly boil it
symdrone. Compare singaporeans people or businesses
(enterprenurship) today to those 20 years or even 10 years ago.
Most GLC singaporean businesses cannot compete outside Singapore.
Singapore woman cannot compete inside or outside singapore. And
now, Singaporeans cannot even compete inside their own country for
jobs with FTs. The education system certainly have some blame to
take, but its the subsequent dilution of the can-do siprit of 2 or
more generations of the Singapore culture that resulted in the
present no-risk mentality.
I don't understand your point about NS killing the fighting
spirits of the people.
Personally, I believe that if SG govt have the foresight
to develop a friendly relationship with its neighbours instead of
trying to piss them off and constantly trying to win a virtual arms
race, there would never be a need for NS. Sure, there is always a
defence need, but it would be more of a defensive force and not an
offensive mindset as we have presently have due to the they will
attack me mentality. right now, IMO, NS is only a brainwashing and
innoculation process to maintain a certain degree of predictability
in the majority of the population so that their behavior and trains
of thought are easier to foresee and therefore control. As
Singapore is still a traditional mindset society, males generally
have a higher status in a way in the family. Controlling the males
will mean controlling the family unit as a whole.
In Sun Tzu art of war, the best defense is an offense. We are
preparing for the possibility of war and not for the need of war.
Given the lack of strategic depth, there exists a need for an
offensive doctorine. Can you guarantee that if Singapore is to
scrap away NS, there will be no war? Can you guarantee that our
neighbours or any bigger country will not walk all over us. So, old
wise clown, what do you suggest then?
It is because of our strong deterrent armed forces that are
preventing all these from happening. It is due to our armed forces
that Singapore is able to establish herself and bring in
investments. We pissing our neighbours off? Get that in your big
fat head that whenever our neighbours have some domestic problems,
Singapore is always the boogie man, it is more likely the other way
round about who is pissing who off. For e.g. who's FM actually
threaten us with war?
About the brainwashing bit, IMO, that's a flawed logic on your
part. In which countries armed forces do they have more women? Ever
since the beginning of the human race, the male has always
dominated in taking part in a conflict. Some conspiracy theory you
have there. 'Wonderful' imagination from a clown.
In light of todays military defence technology, there is
no longer a need for a human intensive army, especially for a small
city state like Singapore.
In light of today's unpredictability of the world political
stage, all the more there is a need for a strong deterrent force.
Having said that, given present defense technology, a small city
state like Singapore ought to invest in more force multiplier
platforms and build up an even stronger armed forces to discourage
anyone from even thinking of bullying us!
