You'd be mad to test the Singapore fortress

bot_in_shop SG

I have yet to see a missile assault that have caused the collapse of an entire nation but I am sure you will be able to substantiate a claim don't you... Rolling Eyes
Even in China's case, the reason why they are increasing the numbers of missiles at a rate of 75 a year is to give the US a warning not to interfere and to completely take out Taiwanese military installations because that is impossible to accomplish. Furthermore, there are defences for missile assaults and the ONLY reason we don't have it as of now is there is no use for it!

And by the way, which runway are you referring to? There are numerous runways scattered through Singapore, both emergency and regular RSAF ones. For an aggressor to completely take out all these runways means that the country is as good as lost, especially given the efforts taken in the past few years to harden our command structures against pre-emptive strikes and improve our damage control capabilities. Furthermore, even a typical Singaporean doesn't know where all the emergency runways are! Let alone our enemies!

gf0012-aust SG

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Yea i believe the SAF does have plans to deal with indonasia

foga SG

i believe sing gov would prefer ibu to stay in power. after spending so much effort to bring up the friendship,at the executive level, between singapore and RI, to do it over agin wif wiranto would be very mah fang.

but then again the strength of their Kompasus and kostrad enough to cover singapore from tuas to changi and from woodland to sentosa.

meander SG

Actually, I believe it's possible to take out entire nations with missile attacks. Countries that are densly populated where most of the land is used (like Singapore) are particularly vulnerable. Nukes for one. If say, US goes nuts and launches 50 nukes at us. If just one nuke gets through, Singapore is gone.

Also possible is launching hundreds of long ranged missile attacks after sending in tons of bombers to take out major air-defence installations. Once the air is saturated with missiles, conventional ADA or anti-missile methods won't work anymore.

For that to happen, you must REALLY piss off some powerful country.

But the thing is, no country wants to bear to blame of genocide. Also, launching such a massive missile attack would empty their own arsenal and leave themselves vunerable.

Moonstriker SG

+1 -1 = 0

Bochupi SG

Hmm, I also realised that all those scholar officers are good at writing essays and theories. Everyday sit in the office type and type only. If war really broke out, donno if they can really perform with them holding high posts and huge amount of salaries.

damienthedevil SG

Hi all, I'm curious as to what the typical Singaporean thinks of an Indonesia that is "managed" by Wiranto.

My curioisity stems from the fact that some of the wargamed scenarios I've dealt with here include a scenario where a martial law managed Indonesia revives Konfrontassi.

Do Singaporeans factor in a rogue Indonesia?

We always had a good relationship with the Indonesian Armed Forces since Suharto time, especially with Wiranto ( We can't say the same with their politicians ). We have cultivated good relationship with Indonesian Generals ( Wine, dine and god knows what else ) all this years. If the Golkar party helm by Wiranto wins, at least he will bring some stability to Indonesia ( Martial Law maybe) and SG will have a fren running Indonesia who we can utilise and get favors in return. Its better to have an ally down south ( dont wanna meet any kompassus ) when things hots up in north.

Indonesia with its multitude of problems would not be able to conduct a exercise similar to Konfrontassi which anyway was not a successful operation in the 60's. And if it's revived again, it will definitely be a different story coz of all the new weapons and technology available today.

In a wargame scenario, we have factored-in fighting a war with a Indonesia. And In all the simulated exercises guess who wins all the time.

CX SG

interesting point... but did it work in kosovo?

planes and missiles destroy stuff, but they do not occupy and hold ground. ultimately, u need air power to dominate the battlefield, but u also need significant ground troops to actually occupy the ground and either wipe out the enemy, or force them to the negotiation tables.

nukes aside, conventional air and missile power won't work by itself.

as for nukes, the point of a conventional war is not to wipe out the enemy. and wars are never "total" in practice despite what it preached in theory by von moltke and company...

Fairyland SG

All the hardware........let there be no doubt SAF is the best equipped and their operators are well trained on these war machines.

Software........."battle tested" and the kiasu mentally is sorely lacking.

Top echelon try to make up for this with talk about Technology, Resolve, Propaganda, giant size budgets etc Confused

The only technology that SAF need is on Planet Kamina!

ChrisYX SG

No need 50, 1 will do. U think sg has the capability now to knock down ICBM? Unless one day we have military orbital satellites to knock them out before they reenter earth's atmosphere.

Also the destructive power from a nuke is quite big. Wonder if johor bahru would kanna as well?

Parka SG

Well, you have just said it. And that is enough already.

Parka SG

Using of atomic bombs???

You wouldn't know how loud I laughed at that idea.

Dudes.

Everything happens for a reason. When wars are started with nukes, it's not called a war.

Identify the purpose of the war first.

snk86 SG

kamina your head lah. KAMINO! land of the cloners.......yes....just need to have a big enough pocket and good manners. for more info call 1800-kamino-system. ask for extension Tua wen.

Fairyland SG

heh heh thought it was kamina! Sorry.

It's been done. Small steps:

1) Genetically modified gorillas/goats/dogs to carry backpacks/ammo/batteries etc, and enhanced sensory for perimeter surveillance and detection. These animals will not have vocal cords and their brains will be tapped into a remote control PDA and so respond to cursor commands.

2) Sew into their bodies 15kg of explosives with heart beat as interlock. At least when they succumb to fire their bodies become landmines. These animals will not need food, water or sleep for 3 weeks. They will attack all without a registered RFID tag.

3) Imagine 7 men section with 7 modified tigers. Will do alot for battle confidence when you have these animals besides you.

4) Once you get all the final gene makeup right. Transplant, splice it into a human clone.

SingaporeMacross SG

Wah lao eh, it's just like the neodogs from the starship troopers book. No idea what i'm talking about? Maybe you should take a read.

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the average nuke has can destory 50km radius and cause damage to around 120km(50+70) out....Singapore is 42km at it's longest and something like 18km at it's widest
meaning nuke us and you'd likely get Malaysia or Indonasia too.And who would want to nuke us? Certainly not the US,China or Japan or even europe.Why you might ask?Nuking us would render the straits of malacca unpassable.....and unless there is a new canal in Thailand no one would 1 that to happen!.

meander SG

MAD : Mutually Assured Destruction.

That's all that's holding back any country with nukes to use them.

Anyway here's what might happen on a day the US gets bored and launches a nuke.

http://www.stfunoob.com/media/endoftheworld.swf

Might take a while to load ...

Jazzswing SG

And thats IF the opposing country has the nukes to assure mutual destruction, and if so, whether they are prepared to use it.
Even if a neighbouring country has aquired a low-yield nuclear device or missile saturation, they probably won't dare launch it, considering logic still has a part to play in a potential game. A war with Singapore will involve several players, using a nuke or saturation destruction will get countries such as US heavily involved and will definately invite retaliation, the only question remains is how they might retaliate, there will be too many variables. This initial calculation will be in the minds of any general or politician who comtemplates such means of war, and possibly even deter them.

Joe Black SG

Just like in the "Band of Brothers", Lt Dykes was essentially a scholar officer who couldn't lead man under fire, who would disappear for a long period of time rather than be with his man and battling the coldness, who saw the leading of Easy company as a next step to his promotion or a "must go through" to "clock" his time before being promoted into the staff. He was responsible for getting many Easy troopers killed including himself. How sad.

I am afraid SAF scholarship schemes will produce many Lts like Dykes.

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