Vocation: Pioneer 'S' ?

last SG · 2004-04-09T09:57:00+00:00

nww16,bridges use by 35sce are suppose to be classified.So please don't introduce further

xreBornx SG

yo.. anyone knows wat vocation is Pioneer 'S' ? (at seletar camp)
Heard that its combat engineer.. If so, what type is it?

Thanx.

Master -_- SG

A Pioneer is the worst of all CE Vocations.. be prepared Twisted Evil

xreBornx SG

heh.. yeah.. that's wat i heard toO unfortunately.. but which area is mine? Field? Armour? bridge? explosives? etc..

Anyway.. i was wondering.. when u say xiong.. as in within the engineering aspect or amongst all the other vocations?

P.S: Is it as bad as lets say... rifleman? *lol* Rolling Eyes

Thanx.

wuming78 SG

pioneers provide engineering support to the other formations. so u wil become a pioneer with the inf, gds, cdo, armour, etc.

it doesnt matter if i tell u its more siong than this and less siong than tt rite? the fact of the matter is u r now a pioneer and u wont get to noe abt the others. so jus hold on and go thru it. im sure u wil look back and think its not tt bad after u haf gone thru it.

xreBornx SG

Hmm.. guess u're right there wuming.. It doesn't really matter that much. Like they say.. Just take it as it comes.

Thanx.

spencer99 SG

i hope this is not classified info, but it is common knowledge that our "bridging" and "boatmen" pioneers is based in Seletar Camp.

So you will be one of those "first-in last-out" guys that specialize in river crossing.

During my time, there was rumour that bridging engineers got high risk of getting fingers chopped off because of the pieces of the bridge joined togther, so watch it!

kanzer SG

i am a bridging engineer….. of my time there, i have not heard or seen fingers got chopped off…..... and no pioneer ‘S’ does not equal to bridging pioneer.

spencer99 SG

thanks for clarifying! So it is a rumour after all

khaiseng SG

Don't worry about so much being a pioneer, its not as tough these days. Being posted to seletar means u have the possibilities of in the water bridging unit.

seletar also houses a guards unit and they also have infantry pioneer platoon. Infantry pioneer focus mainly on clearing obstacles and laying obstables. mostly sufficient for human to pass through only, not much of a heavy stuffs like bridging. Most of the time (i heard) infantry commanders don't know how to deploy infantry pioneers, so use them as labourers.. Wink

anyway, getting hands or fingers chopped off is in the past when manual bridge like MGB and bailey bridge is around. I heard of ppl having their fingers chopped off when they lay the top panel of the MGB cos its super heavy that it can do that. these bridges have been phased out and not likely that u'll touch them.

Just keep your fingers where they are and don't anyhow poke them into any holes that u see and u should be fine.

KamenRider SG

actually bridging pioneers is quite fun. you learn many interesting stuff. due to mechanisation, its actually not very siong. they also have some classified stuff very interesting.

only bad thing is you always get your balls wet, sometime can remain like this for a few days. wet, dried, wet again, dried again, wet, dried, wet, dried........need lots of snake powder.

spencer99 SG

During my time, Combat Engineer is the most super siong want. All sweat and no "prestige".

I remember i was in SAFINCOS Bravo, we are the SSL Company that will go support arms but we were the most siong company and our morale was damn low. Alpha was the most switch off company and very easy going and a lot of laughter. When Bravo finish our Runs and 5BX, the Alpha guys just wake up only!

Anyway posting orders came and nearly all the Bravo guys Kanna Arty and some lucky ones go SADA.

The Alpha guys mostly go to Combat Engineers. Suddenly their morale plunge! Mr. Green

Anyway, I got downgraded and postout before posting. Didn't complete my course. Left SAFINCOS as a PTE!

wuming78 SG

now CE not bad mah. can get to go the coveted 39 sce leh. Wink

dsts88 SG

Embarassed Newbie here,
I need assistance to advice me how to claim a pen n a watch.
I was given a pen n certificate, but only got the cert, no good pen around. Who has kept it?? Also, every1 got a very good branded watch except me poor fellow. I was a good boy all these years, y I did I miss all those things?? Can any1 help and advice???? Crying or Very sad

KamenRider SG

floating bridges got one kind that is completely manual. as the engineers always operate in pitch darkness, soldiers got a bad habit of sticking in their finger to see if the holes are aligned so that they can fit in a pin. then sway sway everybody jerk the panel to make it fit better, then.........snap........(quiet)......medic!....medic!....

most of the time accidents happen when you are too shagged, important to always stay sharp.

good luck.

dusterbuster SG

I'm into my eight ict as a bridging pioneer and true it's damn shiong,but I'm always looking forward to my next in-camp training.Don't know why?Maybe because can meet up with my old buddies and not forgetting the mosquitoes and foot rots Very Happy

spencer99 SG

In the Chinese "military chess", the "Gong Pin" (combat engineer) is always the lowest rank. right!

that is why there is discrimination.

KamenRider SG

ah, but not even the highest ranking can clear mines except the "gong bing", that's where they're indispensible. (nice game)

actually engineers dont just do mines, they do many things like boobytrapping, demolition, bridging, fortification countermobility and anything under the sun or moon, wet or dry, and still need to fight like infantry if required. whatever things a soldier dont/cant do they call the engineers. pioneers are the ones always going in first (and get killed), thats why they are called "Pioneers", and last one to come back.

looking at it, if there is a river/sea in front of a Division, they cant cross means they cant cross. be it the Division wanting to advance or retreat, there's nothing they can do about it.

who they gonna call?

engineers are indeed very respectable pple. you should feel damn proud about it. esp when pple ask about your vocation, they always shake their heads and say "siong" when you reply "engineers"...... ego boosted.

dusterbuster SG

Totally agree with Kamenrider Very Happy .Ever since i ROD in 94 until now,i still feel proud when i tell people about my vocation.
Should check out the engineers convoy when we go for exercises,really makes SAF Feel mighty.

khaiseng SG

dusterbuster, u are right, try overtaking an engineer convoy and u are in for trouble... especially if its a DEB...

like what my instructors in CESC says, who has the biggest calibre gun in SAF? who has the heaviest tank in SAF? (ans: CEV)

gary1910 SG

The 165mm demolition gun is very short range and very inaccurate,
but very powerful. I heard it could actually blow a building into pieces.

This could actually be achieved by 105/120mm gun though less explosive.