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last SG · 2004-03-12T22:38:30+00:00

I heard abt MILES84, you guys are lucky to carry the M2/M3, my time no such thing, whether normal ex or ATEC all the way carry the damn heavy gun, carry unti...

I-like-flings(m) SG

what about 106mm dismounted?? haha......just get it on and off the jeep cannot tehan already man....

paulho SG

me to leh, trained since 1990 but my unit going MR soon left mi still doing mut sighz Crying or Very sad

paulho SG

siong? nt siong lah, just gan tao!

paulho SG

after so many years carrying the gun I think second gunner still the best. Peace time training canister always empty. Go brunei for trng use it as fullpack to store groundsheet, 1.25ltr coca cola bottles and titbits, mainland training use it as stool or armchair, 84gun can ony use as "spring" headrest.

But so far I think the malaysian 84 gunners the most good life leow. During a bilateral exercise with them 10yrs ago in negri sembilan they rode 2 gun pairs in unimog vehicles all the way during ex while we walked.

wuming78 SG

err.. i dun think the 106 mm is meant to be used dismounted? at least not man-handled for extended distances?

I-like-flings(m) SG

haha ya lah.. unless u siao lor. haha

wuming78 SG

or rather desperate Mr. Green

thoreldan SG

I am a 84mm spec. The one month course at SIW is one of the worst in my ns. Go for mission, come back dig firetrench, go again, come back dig again. Exercise at brunei is almost dead, especially after water-crossing, you see your 84 turn brown(with rust) you can cry.

I think 2-3 years later i cant carry the dumb gun anymore in reservist. Hope they send me to some MILAN course instead, haha. Haiz going for my 2nd in-camp soon, get to see my useless metal again.

paulho SG

dun u tink milan will be worse, I think it's heavier.

Problem wif out shoot and scoot concept is that we scoot on foot. The malaysians though having 2guns less per company scoot on unimogs.

wuming78 SG

the milan has a dismounted role as well.

NathanG5 SG

SIW stand for Soldier In Wonderland..
haha..well..i think MILAN worst..
my CSM will say.."MILAN? go suck thumb".. Very Happy

CX SG

milan phasing out liao mah...

thought now using an even heavier one? the Spike-Gill? Mr. Green

haha... i rifle-spec... the heaviest part of my kit is my signal set...

NathanG5 SG

hey..y not we have a topic on wat organic weapon u carry?
maybe u are a MG Comd..or 84 Comd..

wuming78 SG

help me start at the SAF forum. Razz

NathanG5 SG

wah..me england no good leh..dunno how to put it thru.. Very Happy

wuming78 SG

u said it mah - "what organic weapon do you carry?" Wink

Icemoon SG

I am the assistant. Not sure why you call the role second gunner? Is that the official name? Surely not, for the nominal roll calls us "ASST".

I think you too lobo liao. How come peace time training canister always empty one? Evil or Very Mad Your commander or COY 2IC never check one meh?

I agree that our life can be hell. Tug the gun and carry the manpack for 10+ km, bash through forest nearly tripping in the dark, in the end go firebase ... "gun x ... fire" ... then miss target! How can we don't miss target? The scope alignment confirm out after all the bashing and climbing. Not to mention you want to concuss when reaching the firebase. By right at the firebase we should be most alert, but during peace time training we just go there and _____

Actually the assistant life can be hell too. 4 canisters + full FBO on your back whereas the gunner has his weight more evenly distributed, in front and behind. I'm not sure how you all carry the gun, I assume you sling it in front or at the side.

By right peacetime training it is the ASST who suffers. 'Cos by right we need to carry 4 canisters + full FBO for peacetime training. And as you know, the rounds are never depleted, unlike the real thing Mad

During ATEC, no need to say. The gun so freaking light. In fact the MILES version of the 84 machiam same weight as the MILES LAW.

paulho SG

[quote]Originally posted by Icemoon:

I think you too lobo liao. How come peace time training canister always empty one? Your commander or COY 2IC never check one meh?

wah sibeh gan dao! hump 10+ klick ah! You what? guards, safinco or ocs cadet? bo siang! you guys have to "siow on" all the way!

heh heh bcus we hokkien peng unit leh & we "keng ka leow" or at least all the second gunners unity on that together, 1st gunner how to keng?

Initially the commanders do check, threaten and scold us but when get to the field then they realise. Razz Razz

But most times everybody+commanders glad bcus too heavy they also have to help carry & all of them for sure dun like to carry. Mr. Green

Icemoon SG

wah sibeh gan dao! hump 10+ klick ah! You what? guards, safinco or ocs cadet?

Aiyah, don't be humble la, you also walk that far for dawn deliberate attack mah. Very Happy I infantry only Sad

Initially the commanders do check, threaten and scold us but when get to the field then they realise. Razz Razz

Still not too late. Shouldn't your commander say, "Chee b-i, why your canister empty one?! Go back sign confinement/extra!!!" Isn't deterrance one purpose of punishment?

By right must have inspection before moving out, just like for alert red. So the OC should see 4 rounds beside everyone's groundsheet?

But most times everybody+commanders glad bcus too heavy they also have to help carry & all of them for sure dun like to carry

Bullshit. Mr. Green You think the coy 2IC ever need to carry? Ok la, the kind ones *might*. If the order is passed down, the 84 commander also LL, must ensure 4 rounds in the field ... lol

wuming78 SG

Shocked din noe tt! wah.. then the 84 gunner realli ku jing gan lai. after all the siongness during trg they most relac during atec.

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