I
love my country, I hate my country
Award-winning Singaporean playwright Alfian Sa’at talks to
BISSME S about writing and his love-hate relationship with his
homeland.
What are some of the challenges you face as a
writer in Singapore?
I am inspired whenever I come to
Kuala Lumpur. I feel there are
little pocket freedoms which I do
not find in Singapore. There is
greater freedom of expression in
Malaysia. The idea of democracy
is better practised
here."
Where do I start? Some of the challenges that we face are
universal. It is difficult to make a living and a career out of
writing and publishing in Singapore. For a country of 4.5 million
people, I believe that there are fewer than 10% who are active
readers. From that percentage, even fewer pick up and read works
written locally. Readership is a challenge. We don’t have a reading
culture. If you look at the bestseller lists, they are works, in a
sense, already successfully and globally marketed, like Harry
Potter. A lot of self-help books reach the bestseller list. That
happens to be the reading diet of the Singapore population.
Why is this the reading
pattern?
I think it
comes from this idea that any kind of reading should be sort of
instrumentalist, which means that you don’t read for pleasure
alone. You read for some kind of edification. You read for a
purpose, like improving your life. I find self-help books strange
and presumptuous, trading on the idea that you can actually
prescribe certain things for every single individual.
I think we
are a complex people and I believe in us as individuals. I don’t
think one self-help book is going to have the one size fits all
solution. I must say in terms of theatre, it is a little better
because you are not competing with international works. We are able
to make inroads when it comes to theatre.
Of course
(Singapore’s) film-makers and writers who are producing literature
are facing stiff competition from Hollywood and pulp fiction
paperbacks from other parts of the world. We are also competing
against books by people who won the Booker prize or who are Nobel
laureates. There is an attitude among Singapore readers who will
say: ‘You have not won some international award, why should I read
you?’
Are you not happy
as a Singaporean?
Yes
(we laugh). But I have to qualify this. It is unhappiness,
an agitation, which I think is a source of a lot of creative
energy. It is not a paralysing kind of unhappiness. It is an
unhappiness, I think, that compels me to try to figure out certain
questions. What it means to be a Singaporean … nationhood,
belonging, ethnicity and identity. I hope it is not just something
that ends up being a kind of involuted, armchair critic kind of
complaining. I am, of course, unhappy.
Picking up
a copy of Straits Times in Singapore can ruin your
morning. You wonder whether they really had to report on the
ministerial speech at a community centre.
It is just
rehashing the same thing you have heard for the last four decades.
It is so pro-government. The Opposition is always portrayed in an
unflattering light.
But it
doesn’t take much to read between the lines. Obviously, I am not
happy with the situation. I feel as if I am not getting real access
to the real information.
From your writings, one feels you faced some
discrimination as a Singapore Malay?
I have
been a beneficiary of the system. It is not as if I am a Malay, I
am denied, like say, access to subsidised education. It has not
happened to me.
But I
don’t think writing is solely about your own personal grievances. I
have this platform where I can share certain ideas and information.
There is a certain responsibility to speak up on behalf of other
people who have been discriminated against because of their
ethnicity. I have heard a lot about working class Malays facing
discrimination. I believe I should write about all these
incidents.
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Are Singapore’s Malays being discriminated against?
Singapore
likes to compare itself to Malaysia, using Malaysia as a negative
example. Apparently, the twin pillars of Singapore’s ideology are
meritocracy and multiracialism.
Singapore’s ideology
sounds good on paper and in principle. But what they ignore is that
not all races are in equal proportion in society. There is still a
dominant Chinese majority in Singapore. When you are the majority,
you form the bulk of your market. Your images in the media are
everywhere, etc. So you need to do something a little extra for the
minorities who are not going to have this kind of resources simply
because they form a smaller number.
But I
think a lot of people in Singapore especially the Chinese don’t
realise what they are enjoying is majority privilege. They think
that just because everything is supposedly meritocratic, there is
no such thing as market forces that will favour the majority. Why
don’t I see Malay faces in magazines and advertisements? The reason
is simple. Because you want to sell to the majority. The buyers
want to see faces they can identify with. The question is what
should the state do to prevent minorities from feeling alienated by
all these market forces?
Can you cite an example of blatant
discrimination?
There is
still discrimination in the army. A Malay would not be assigned to
a sensitive position in the army. They will not get to deal with
areas like military intelligence and handle more sophisticated
weapons. It has been happening for so long. But the thing that
makes me unhappy is the government doesn’t admit it.
When these
questions are raised, they keep insisting the army is meritocratic.
It isn’t. I’d rather have a government that comes out in the open
and says: ‘We do not recruit Malays into higher ranks because of
security issues ... because we think their loyalty might be torn
between Singapore and neighbouring countries.’ Only when this is
out in the open, perhaps then we could have some healthy
discussions.
But if
they do this, of course this would invite a response from
neighbouring countries. I believe that none of the neighbouring
countries want to attack Singapore. It has no strategic depth. No
natural resources. The rhetoric in Singapore is that other
countries are ‘envious of our success’. I don’t think there is
envy. But there is pity. Because here is a country with such a
delusional sense of self-importance that it devotes so much of its
budget to defence, and wastes productive years of the lives of its
adult males through mandatory conscription.
But if you were the defence minister
would you put Malays in higher positions in the
army?
Yes, I
would. Even the Israeli army recruits Arabs. In terms of social
integration, it is absolutely important we do not mistrust any
members of our society.
I believe
their rationale is the Malays still have an attachment to Malaysia
and we need to wait for several years until they feel fully
Singaporean. But my rationale is: How can we feel fully Singaporean
if we are not integrated into the army and made to feel
Singaporean? Just because you are born in some Singapore hospital
doesn’t make you feel Singaporean.
You have
to go through a certain rite of passage and citizenship that makes
you feel for your country. It must make you say: ‘I will fight for
the army because it happens to be an army that trusted me to fight
for my country.’ You must have confidence that a citizen will
execute his duty as a citizen. Malaysia has had non-bumi generals
for so long. Singapore never had a Malay general since independence
in 1965. Only last year we had an Indian-Muslim colonel promoted to
the rank of brigadier-general. It has taken them so long to appoint
a Muslim general.
How do non-Malays in Singapore react
to your statements?
I have
more non-Malay friends than Malay friends in Singapore. I always
put my views in an honest way but never in an aggressive way that
will make them feel offended and defensive. But for some people in
Singapore, even raising such issues puts them on the
defensive.
Some consider you are ultra Malay.
What is your comment?
To be an
ultra Malay, I have to speak Malay well and be rooted in Malayness
... wearing songkok, samping, waving the keris (he
laughs). But I don’t. I speak to my parents in Malay. But my
first language is English. I even dream in English. So it is hard
to be a racial chauvinist when you can’t even speak the language
well. When I see a lot of this ultra Malay gestures in Malaysia, I
feel nauseated because they are the same as the ultra Chinese in
Singapore. Someone raising a keris is the same as a Chinese talking
about the superiority of Chinese culture and their 5,000 years of
civilisation.
Have you gotten into trouble with the
law over your views?
I have
never broken any law. But I also know there is the ISA where you do
not need any evidence to catch you. I have not been detained under
the ISA. But in Singapore, the process of making art comes under so
many regulations. There are so many guidelines we (the artists)
have to subscribe too. I had issues with censorship.
Can you give some
examples?
In one of
my plays, I wanted to include a scene where in the future, Malaysia
decides to cut the water supply to Singapore. So some Singaporeans
travel to the North Pole to transport back some icebergs. The scene
was considered sensitive and we had to pull it out.
In 2001,
in my poetry collection, History of Amnesia, there was a
bit where I included poems on ISA detainee Chia Thye Poh. He had
spent 32 years in detention under the ISA. I had a hard time
getting a publishing grant (from the government). In the end, my
application was turned down with no written explanation.
What misconceptions do people have
about you?
That I am
an angry young man. But when they meet me, they are surprised to
find me soft-spoken and mild. They can’t match the writer and the
person. I feel I have disappointed them.
Why are you often in Kuala
Lumpur?
I am
inspired whenever I come to Kuala Lumpur. I feel there are little
pocket freedoms which I do not find in Singapore. There is greater
freedom of expression in Malaysia. The idea of democracy is better
practised here. There are no demos in Singapore. The idea is
foreign to Singaporeans. Nobody has any idea what takes place in a
demo ... what it feels like to shout a slogan or even hold a
placard. Of course there are also repressive measures when it comes
to Syariah law here. I do not want a kind of Jais (Jabatan Agama
Islam) in Singapore. I do not want moral policing or even
vigilantism.
Why do you want to see a demo in
Singapore?
I am not
saying that we should have one just for the sake of it. But if
there is some legitimate grievance, then this avenue should be
available. I think it is possible to have demonstrations conducted
in an orderly fashion. The Singapore government is not so much
afraid of the law and order aspects of allowing a demonstration.
They are more afraid of public expressions of unhappiness over
their rule.
Many Muslims believe the community
needs the moral police. What is your comment?
We should
be clear about the reach of the law when it comes to governing
behaviour. When you behave in a way that harms others, obviously it
is a crime and you need laws to curb it. When you are doing certain
things in private and where the principle of harm cannot be
demonstrated convincingly, I don’t think those are things that
require legislation.
Do you hate your
country?
In the
foreword to my latest book (Collected Plays One), Ivan
Heng (a Singapore theatre director) said that after reading my
works, he realised that I hate Singapore as a lover would. Only the
ones you love can hurt you. For example, if a waiter serves you
late, you get annoyed but forget about it the next day. But if you
felt wounded by someone you love, the pain stays for very
long.
If I felt
affected by some things that are happening in my country, a part of
it is because I love Singapore. Of course, not in a facile,
flag-waving kind of way. The frustrations come from seeing so much
potential going to waste and being neglected.
What made you want to be a
writer?
I wish I
could tell you that there was a book that transformed my life and I
wanted to be a writer. I wish I could tell you that I met this
author and we shook hands and I felt something pass through me and
I wanted to be writer. But the reality is I just love writing.
Writing is one of those few things in life that I am probably good
at. Writing is something that keeps me sane, that keeps me
balanced, and that keeps me alive.
Alfian is
doing a residency at the Instant Café House of Art and Ideas (CHAI)
in Kuala Lumpur and will be conducting writing workshops. Those
interested can log on to http://blog.instantcafetheatre.com/2010/06/writing-workshops-by-alfian-saat-singapore/)
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