New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs (Part 3)

last SG · 2017-03-02T13:06:53+00:00

You're so happy ah for 381,Your predictions is almost true leh..Make me wonder if you're working for LTA?đ¤ I didn't expect 381 to go one big round via Soo...

dupdup77 SG

Hi dupdup77, you take svc 89E often?

I would say that the root cause is really too many cars trying to go back to Punggol during peak hours, the buses don't really cause much delay because there's the two-lane bus bays. Nowadays, LTA got change the traffic light signal timing so that cars going to Punggol can turn right and keep on going, instead of stopping again at the bridge (which is the usual signal cycle on weekday mornings or weekends), but when they don't change the signal cycle to optimize for the flow of cars exiting TPE, then you get the massive jams ...

Hi mr orange28, I take 89E often.

You may be right about root cause but the location of the bus stop along TPE is a contributing factor to that. The bus lanes along TPE bus stop towards Sengkang/Punggol direction are less busier than the car. Lane 1 is strictly for bus. Lane 2 is for buses/cars. Lane 3/4 are for cars. Before TPE stop is built, Lane 1 to lane 4 are for cars. You do your maths and you roughly know. Cheers. Thanks.

SMB128B SG

Hi mr orange28, I take 89E often.

Before TPE stop was built there were only 2 lanes w a dual lane slip into Sengkang halfway up the ramp..

The TPE stop didnt worsen the problem that much.. If anything it may have made things better..

orange28 SG

Before TPE stop was built there were only 2 lanes w a dual lane slip into Sengkang halfway up the ramp..

The TPE stop didnt worsen the problem that much.. If anything it may have made things better..

Depends on the perspective bah:

orange28 SG

Back to the topic of new bus routes, I highly suspect that any new/modified bus routes as a result of the new Tuas West MRT extension may be announced at their roving roadshows, the first of which is on next Monday (22 May). Plausible?

gekpohboy SG

Anyway, I don’t think 258 would be affected. 258 has very strong loading during peak hours, and acceptable loading during regular hours, even at its unique section.

CZT SG

Yup. Agreed. And if im not wrong the trend for most of the past major press release is always on a monday (Correct me if im wrong)

CZT SG

Anyway, I don’t think 258 would be affected. 258 has very strong loading during peak hours, and acceptable loading during regular hours, even at its unique section.

Yup, without doubt. The one in question is 256, as many ppl claim that the loading was terrible since launch

gekpohboy SG

256 can be replaced with 192 meandering around Jurong West Street 62 and 63 – like 243 meandering around Jurong West Street 71 and Pioneer Road North. eg: 63 > 61 > avenue 4 > 64 > 65 > 63 > 64 > central 3. In fact, 192 is not needed at Upper Jurong Road. 192 can take over 256’s route at Jalan Ahmad Ibrahim.

vicamour SG

Hi dupdup77, you take svc 89E often?

The biggest problem is LTA don't build exit slip roads from TPE to Sengkang East Drive and Punggol East, thus the nearest exit point for everyone is via Punggol Rd, causing a bottleneck during peak hours.

Instead they widen the lanes for slip roads to Punggol Rd. Big mistake indeed.

dupdup77 SG

Instead they widen the lanes for slip roads to Punggol Rd. Big mistake indeed.

Hi mr vicamour, wait 1 yr 8 months more. Direct connection from Punggol central and Punggol east to TPE is on the cards.

As for exit slips roads from TPE to sengkang east and Punggol east, they have done engineering analysis and deduced not viable due to the length required. This was reported in the print few years ago. Cheers. Thanks.

carbikebus SG

Punggol Field/East,TPE exit all like forever jam..

BusAnalayzer SG

Hi mr sbs6750E, yes nowadays I have already changed and toned down and I don't shoot down other people proposals anymore. I just leave it as it is. All I do is to reemphasize a point that I was correct when mr busanalyser said I was wrong months ago.

The amendment of Sbs 129 to serve the 1 and only extra stop it left out initially but amended from 28 may 2017 goes to show that my point was correct. However unfortunately mr SMB128B goes and brings out the 3 stops which is not part of 129 route since 129 goes by Bartley underpass. This causes a mini uproar. That was really unfortunate as this did not really affect the point that a bus service will ply all the stops of its route. Cheers. Thanks.

Well dupdup...you were WRONG then... it was introduced without those bus stops... now if 129 needs them, they have been re-instated. I am back after long and I have NO interest in arguing with your "cock-up" ways. I have better things to do.

BusAnalayzer SG

I wonder is BusAnalayzer still active in this forum?

I wasn't active. I was on an intense multi-million dollar project that needed my 24*7 attention. I have missed a lot of posts. I didn't get time to observe much, so no point coming here and reporting (Except a few that I will post).

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr busanalyser, haha. The moment you come back, you start to brandish others aside as being cock-up. Up to you lor. If you feel you have better things to do and brush all others aside and not interested in arguing, then don't rebut any points lor. Nobody forces you anyway.

Cock-up ways or no, Sbs 129 will eventually ply the stop with effect 28 may 2017. Hooray. Cheers. Thanks.

Gus.chong SG

Anyway, I don’t think 258 would be affected. 258 has very strong loading during peak hours, and acceptable loading during regular hours, even at its unique section.

The amendment for 258 had been confirmed by insider information (though I had some reservations on whether it would be necessary); it will not ply Upp Jurong Road along it's route, instead following 256's route from Pioneer MRT to Joo Koon. 256 will then be withdrawn and 192 will ply Jurong West Streets 61 & 62.

SBS BUSES LOVER SG

such a ridiculous ammendment.

BusAnalayzer SG

It's a good amendment, but I will wait for the official announcement to be out.

BusAnalayzer SG

Cock-up ways or no, Sbs 129 will eventually ply the stop with effect 28 may 2017. Hooray. Cheers. Thanks.

Ignoring you ... :)

TPS Timothy Mok SG

No, you cannot withdraw that kind of service. It is written on the bus package that 256 and 258 is there; but 256 may be extended to Tuas South (or Bulim Industrial Estate) and handed to Bulim Bus Package. 258 has acceptable demand everyday.

But 700 is still the same. 973 is there to bring passengers from Hume Avenue to Hillion Mall. The only bus services withdrawn is Premium 555, 563 and 598.

Park Service got no choice due to low demand.

Premiums are allowed to withdraw or handed to other operators.

Chinatown Direct is always kept with the exception of CT28, which has severely low demand.

TPS Timothy Mok SG

By the way, is there a way that 258 can be amended via Boon Lay Way and Jurong West Street 61?

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