New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs (Part 3)

last SG · 2017-03-02T13:06:53+00:00

You're so happy ah for 381,Your predictions is almost true leh..Make me wonder if you're working for LTA?đ¤ I didn't expect 381 to go one big round via Soo...

gekpohboy SG

Hi mr gekpohboy, wrong fact given. 27 is not 10-20 minutes frequency during peak hours. Cheers. Thanks.

When I checked the bus service loading on mytransport.sg website, it was 14 minutes at Compassvale LRT station bus stop (67251). Now, it is less than 5 minutes for every bus.

Maybe 14 minutes is the off-peak hour frequency, whereas 5 minutes is the frequency during peak hours.

Anyway, from my observation on the website, there is a period of time when the bus had "limited standing". It was until one minute before Compassvale LRT bus stop. I suspect it is from Tampines Avenue 10 to Compassvale Street.

I believe what is required is a short working trip from Tampines to Compassvale, instead of an increased in frequency on the entire route.

carbikebus SG

Suspect that lta will be provide the bus service 137 and 152 for the area for serangoon and eunos package

Serangoon-Eunos only left 1 new svc,Bedok also left 1..

CZT SG

I don't expect the loading to be high, or even enough to sustain the operations for a number of years. It's probably temporary, and would be withdrawn, or integrated with 858 once they know what to do with 858.

The purpose of 110 is probably to test water, to see whether 110 will reduce the number of commuters on 858 travelling along the sector towards the airport.

Because once 858 loading drop significantly at that section between Yishun and Changi, it could be merged with surrounding 965, which plies about the same route from Woodlands to Sengkang.

Sorry dupdup77, but I foresee a route amendment coming along, at least for 858.

The other one is 973 at Bukit Panjang. One of the routes may absorb 973 and change to use the number 973.

Think abt it this way: 858 is already packed to the cap when it arrives at TPE bus stop. Sengkang/Punggol residents whoneed to work at changi/SATS, and they can even hardly squeeze in. Now, 110 will definitely relief this load and these ppl can board the bus. There's a reason why 858B is intrduced frm jalan kayu coz LTA saw that sengkang/punggol residents need to get to airport FAST (ppl cant get stranded at the bus stop coz all buses are full). So if you think cutting 858 in light of 110, it would create a heavoc nonetheless

In fact, where 858 shld cut, ought to be somewhere between woodlands-yishun sector.

gekpohboy SG

Suspect that lta will be provide the bus service 137 and 152 for the area for serangoon and eunos package

Serangoon-Eunos only has vacancy for 1 new route, according to the details of negotiated packages published last year.

So, it's probably 137 that would be in the Serangoon-Eunos package, as 134 is there.

As for 152, it's probably with the Sengkang-Hougang package.

The Sengkang-Hougang package has 3 new routes, of which 329 was recently launched two months ago. 110 is probably with the Sengkang-Hougang package, considering 117 and several 110-series services is in the package.

The third new route would probably be the 152 that you are writing about.

gekpohboy SG

I dun think 858 would be cut/slashed frm serving airport at all. It is an impt (but winding) service for ppl frm yishun and sembawang who needs to commute to the airport area, as well as for sengkang residents coz its DIRECT (unlike 27 and 34 which goes to tamp first). If you dont believe me u come to khatib mrt in the morning 858 is packed to the fullest in all of the buses. And where do they go? No they dont alight at jalan kayu or TPE bus stop. They all go towards airport. Asking them to change in Sengkang is going to create chaos when they have to transfer/cross street (if necessary depending how you forsee 858 might be amended). Yes ppl are struggling to board 858 at yishun/khatib area, if u want them to alight and then start squeezing onto 110, dude its not possible. Think abt it this way: 858 is already packed to the cap when it arrives at TPE bus stop. Sengkang/Punggol residents whoneed to work at changi/SATS, and they can even hardly squeeze in. Now, 110 will definitely relief this load and these ppl can board the bus. There's a reason why 858B is intrduced frm jalan kayu coz LTA saw that sengkang/punggol residents need to get to airport FAST (ppl cant get stranded at the bus stop coz all buses are full). So if you think cutting 858 in light of 110, it would create a heavoc nonetheless

Okay. If fustration's what you are trying to say by writing one whole chunk of text with occasional uppercase,

I am sorry.

gekpohboy SG

Suddenly, I lost all my momentum writing anything, after reading CZT's rant.

Vampire77lim, I'm sorry for the abrupt reply to your post about 137 and 152. Will re-write a better one when my mood returns to normal.

CZT SG

well im sorry if i just chunked everything up at one go. ok i edit a bit, but it's not frustration lah, it's practicality yo

gekpohboy SG

It’s akin to saying “shut up”.

SMB1368T SG

Any possibility that 110 may be extended to Buangkok Int?

Sbs6750E SG

When I checked the bus service loading on mytransport.sg website, it was 14 minutes at Compassvale LRT station bus stop (67251). Now, it is less than 5 minutes for every bus.

Maybe 14 minutes is the off-peak hour frequency, whereas 5 minutes is the frequency during peak hours.

I believe what is required is a short working trip from Tampines to Compassvale, instead of an increased in frequency on the entire route.

I suggest you go down to the bus stop personally and observe the freq of the buses as bus apps are not 100% accurate. And take note 27 has pm peak downroutes from Century Square to Hougang. The only thing I want LTA to do with sv 27 is to deploy DDs on 27A/downroutes.

SG1014S SG

The problem with 858 is that it tags a winding feeder-style route within Woodlands - Yishun with a fast express route to the Airport. A best way to split it might be a route from Woodlands - KTPH (loop) and then a route from Sembawang - Airport that skip KTPH.

Waynechew1003 SG

27 even though downroutes from Tampines can be still very high demand. It would be good if there is a short working route from Tampines- Sengkang and able to use DD

Waynechew1003 SG

Was there a mention of 27?

Anyway, 27 is already at 10-20 minutes frequency during peak hours, and the loading is "standing available" for 2 single decker buses back-to-back.

Nonetheless, an increased in frequency to 5-10 minutes during peak hours may not be necessary, because this may lead to an excessive amount of unused resources during off-peak hours.

27 frequency for peak is 1-5 mins per bus. Take note the slip road to tpe always jam and all the buses usually all jam there

Waynechew1003 SG

27 will reduce frequency, or even slash it back to 7 - 8 minutes peak and 12 minutes off-peak.

27 is running fine right now. If every 12 mins off-peak, there will be a problem cause it will be very full esp airport - Tampines cause ppl dw take 34 from airport - Tampines as it is too winding.

carbikebus SG

27 peak frequency is between 2-5 mins and 8-13 mins for off peak

lemon1974 SG

Serangoon-Eunos only has vacancy for 1 new route, according to the details of negotiated packages published last year.

So, it's probably 137 that would be in the Serangoon-Eunos package, as 134 is there.

As for 152, it's probably with the Sengkang-Hougang package.

The third new route would probably be the 152 that you are writing about.

pls lah.. the negotiated package are done more than 1 year ago.. what they included are planned routes at time of negotiation/planning (which should be 2 years ago at least) .. whatever changes/new routes they make over the past 1 year, they wont be telling you... all these new routes are just tentative only.. they can just anyhow add new routes to whatever packages..

just take for example, they planned for one new route for Loyang package. (sv68), but it is still not implemented and yet they introduce 381 instead...

Vampire77lim SG

Saw training route bus go ahead at Paris ris dr 12 .TAMPINES ave 10 to bedok North rd bedok south rd upper East coast rd east coast rd amber rd marine parade rd still rd south east coast rd

For the bus service don't know is it service 68

lemon1974 SG

Saw training route bus go ahead at Paris ris dr 12 .TAMPINES ave 10 to bedok North rd bedok south rd upper East coast rd east coast rd amber rd marine parade rd still rd south east coast rd

For the bus service don't know is it service 68

you follow the bus ? or you inside the bus..... wonder how you know where the bus go..

SMB128B SG

858 May skip TPE stop.

carbikebus SG

Saw training route bus go ahead at Paris ris dr 12 .TAMPINES ave 10 to bedok North rd bedok south rd upper East coast rd east coast rd amber rd marine parade rd still rd south east coast rd

For the bus service don't know is it service 68

A few ex-TTS BCs route familiaration la

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