Route Suggestions (Part 7)

last SG · 2016-07-04T22:43:50+00:00

For the areas already developed - like Lavender, Jurong and Bedok - if there should be, there would already be.The new bus routes at the new areas - like Pun...

carbikebus SG

81: A big no. Go unneccessary route for what? A route has been upgraded since 1993 to air-con double deckers, more capacity. In 2003, it was shortened to Serangoon as the demand is not that great between Serangoon and Outram Park after the opening of NEL. The unneccessary route is compensated by NEL and 147. Perhaps there are people still taking 81 from Serangoon, Kovan to Tampines, Pasir Ris during peak hour. A lot of winding take place at Pasir Ris.

292: A big no. There is a heavy loading on 292 during peak hour. There is only two primary schools to support 292 - Tampines and Angsana. People are more aware of 292 and will never ever bother to change it. But the only problem is 61, because of the demolition of Tanglin Halt flats in 2017/18 (after SERS, most of them moved elsewhere; remaining waited for Dawson Estate).

The only alternative is to divert 46, via Tampines Ave 7, Ave 9, St 45, St 34, St 32 to reduce congestion on service 291/293, and allow the reduction of extra buses to bring the frequencies to lower levels. No one will eventually take 46 from the interchange as there is a lot of people using 69, 72 or 291W's berth. This is the "most redundant route ever". They feel that the route is even, not existent.

39 amended to new interchange is not a problem. Its like having my 2nd Facebook is not an eyesore.

18 amended to new interchange is a problem, they added a new bus stop too. But they can also start at the new interchange.

Possibilities:

351 should change to 144:Jurong East-New bridge Rd

466 change to 44:Jurong East-Queen St

AJQZC SG

39 amended to new interchange is not a problem. Its like having my 2nd Facebook is not an eyesore.

18 amended to new interchange is a problem, they added a new bus stop too. But they can also start at the new interchange.

Possibilities:

Why would I even want to care about 51, 61, 66 and NEL rationalisation when I'm talking about route changes in Tampines here?? Thanks for your irrelevant input.

AJQZC SG

Will not touch 81 or 293. 81 have erratic frequency, while 293 is needed to support the load at Ave 9/St 41.

28M Tamp - Tamp Ave 7 (replace 28's Ave 9 downroutes) (Full SDs)

28's route to St 32

(Ave 2), Ave 7 (Tamp East MRT), (St 24, 21), St 23, 28's route to Int

29M Tamp - Tamp Ave 7 (replace 28's Ave 9 downroutes and 29A) (Full SDs)

29's route to Ave 9 (stop before Ave 9 TPJC stop)

St 42, Ave 7 (Tamp East MRT)

29's route to Int

Provides more reliable frequency along Ave 9 (Especially stops served only by 28/29). One is a loop service, the other is a trunk service. 28 DD downroutes do not serve the 2 stops covered by 29 only.

However, there will potentially be a repeat of 43/43M situation

28M will not work out because there would only be a one-way connection to/from MRT for either side, especially St 32. Unless you make the loop do the other direction as well (or loop at St 33 instead), and in that case it would be as good as introducing a new feeder service.

29M seems alright.

Is it really not possible to amend any other nearby services? Suppose 4 gets a few more DDs, can it manage the diversion into St 32/34?

BusAnalayzer SG

29M seems alright.

Is it really not possible to amend any other nearby services? Suppose 4 gets a few more DDs, can it manage the diversion into St 32/34?

46 extension can cover ave 7, st 32/34/45 and back to ave 7 via ave 9. This will take care of both the proposals you are making.

BusAnalayzer SG

UEC Terminal <> Ghim Moh Terminal

UEC Terminal >> UEC Road >> ... >> Orchard Boulevard >> Grange Road >> Tanglin Road >> Alexandra Road >> Commonwealth Ave >> Ghim Moh.

* Shortened route to provide better reliability

* Missing route covered by svc 46, 149 and 222.

111

Route deleted, number reserved for future NEL service

* Route covered by svc 14/149

149

Clementi Interchange <> Marina Center Terminal

Clementi Interchange >> svc 14 route ... >> Bras Basah Road >> Suntec City >> Marina Center Terminal

* Shorter route provides higher reliability

Bedok Interchange <> Tampines St 45 (loop)

Bedok Interchange >> Bedok South Road >> Bedok South Ave 1 >> UEC Road >> Bedok Road >> Tanah Merah MRT >> Bedok North Road >> ... >> Tampines Ave 5 >> Tampines Ave 4 >> Tampines Ave 7 >> Tampines Ave 2 (exp) >> Tampines St 32 >> St 34 >> St 45 >> Ave 9 >> Ave 7 & back to Bedok

* Blocks along Bedok South Ave 3 can walk to UEC Road to take svc 46 to Bedok Reservoir DTL3

* Covers for missing link of svc 14

* Provides DTL3 connection @ Tampines East to st 32/34/45 and ave 9

* Connects UEC Road/Bayshore to Bedok MRT (no service today)

* Better reliability between Tanah Merah MRT & UEC/Bedok North compared to svc 14 that comes all the way from Clementi and prone to delays because of long route and traffic along Orchard

BusAnalayzer SG

New route 44

Changi Business Park Terminal >> Changi Business Park Central >> Changi South Ave 3 >> Changi South Ave 2 >> Changi South Ave 1 >> Xilin Ave >> Simei Ave >> Bedok North Ave 4 >> Bedok North Road >> Bedok North Ave 3 (DTL3) >> Bedok Reservoir Road >> Bedok North Road (DTL3) >> Chai Chee St >> Bedok North St 1 (new stop) >> Bedok North Ave 2 >> Bedok North St 3 >> Bedok North Ave 1 >> Chai Chee St & back....

* Connects CBP, ITE to Bedok North Estate & DTL 3 @ Bedok Reservoir

* Connects Bedok North Ave 4 HDBs and industrial estate to DTL 3 @ Bedok Reservoir

* Connects Bedok Reservoir Road to DTL3 @ Bedok North (no connection today)

* Connects Chai Chee St, Bedok North St 1/3, North Ave 1/2 to DTL3 @ Bedok North (no connection today)

* Provides good intra-town connectivity for entire Bedok North Estate.

Thoughts??

carbikebus SG

UEC Terminal <> Ghim Moh Terminal

UEC Terminal >> UEC Road >> ... >> Orchard Boulevard >> Grange Road >> Tanglin Road >> Alexandra Road >> Commonwealth Ave >> Ghim Moh.

* Shortened route to provide better reliability

* Missing route covered by svc 46, 149 and 222.

111

Route deleted, number reserved for future NEL service

* Route covered by svc 14/149

149

Clementi Interchange <> Marina Center Terminal

Clementi Interchange >> svc 14 route ... >> Bras Basah Road >> Suntec City >> Marina Center Terminal

* Shorter route provides higher reliability

Bedok Interchange <> Tampines St 45 (loop)

* Blocks along Bedok South Ave 3 can walk to UEC Road to take svc 46 to Bedok Reservoir DTL3

* Covers for missing link of svc 14

* Provides DTL3 connection @ Tampines East to st 32/34/45 and ave 9

* Connects UEC Road/Bayshore to Bedok MRT (no service today)

* Better reliability between Tanah Merah MRT & UEC/Bedok North compared to svc 14 that comes all the way from Clementi and prone to delays because of long route and traffic along Orchard

Superb

Btqwer3 SG

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BusAnalayzer SG

Superb

Thank you. Glad you liked my route suggestions.

iveco SG

Our dear bus analyst has just given me ideas for Routes 14 and 198.

Clementi-Normanton covered by 166, Normanton-Bukit Merah has 197.

Even though i have a soft spot for Route 14 (as it was the only route in front of my house that had CRB due to BN minority control) i can live with such an amendment. i have Route 106 to Orchard and Suntec that plies a more direct route. my aim of extending Route 198 is to bridge the connection once provided by Route 92 (merged into Route 14) between Alexandra Village and Dhoby Ghaut. the resources for Route 111 can be redeployed to other routes in need of capacity.

gekpohboy SG

âŞRe-route 256 to skip Jurong West Street 62. Instead, ply Jurong West Street 64, Avenue 4 and Street 61. Loading sure improve.âŹ

SBS3004X SG

Service 883 Extension

Current route to Yishun Ave 2 (Yishun MRT)

Yishun Central

Yishun Ave 4

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ring Road (looping point)

Yishun Ave 4

Yishun Central

Yishun Ave 2

Current route to Sembawang

805 can be withdrawn.

SBS3004X SG

Service 804G

Yishun Central

Yishun Ave 11

Yishun Ave 6

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun St 61

Yishun Central

Service 804W

Yishun Central

Yishun St 61

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun Ave 6

Yishun Ave 11

Yishun Central

Pros:

Faster connection from Yishun Ave 1 to Yishun Central (faster than both 117 and current 804)

Cons:

No more connection from Yishun Ave 1 to Yishun North, pax have to walk to Yishun Ring Road to take 860

SBS3004X SG

Service 804G (New version)

Yishun Central

Yishun Ave 2

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun Ave 11

Yishun Ave 6

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun St 61

Yishun Central

Service 804W (New version)

Yishun Central

Yishun St 61

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun Ave 6

Yishun Ave 11

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun Ave 2

Yishun Central

Pros:

Faster connection from Yishun Ave 1 to Yishun Central (faster than both 117 and current 804)

Cons:

Duplicative of 860

201911 SG

Service 804G (New version)

Yishun Central

Yishun Ave 2

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun Ave 11

Yishun Ave 6

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun St 61

Yishun Central

Service 804W (New version)

Yishun Central

Yishun St 61

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun St 41

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun Ave 6

Yishun Ave 11

Yishun Ring Road

Yishun Ave 2

Yishun Central

Pros:

Faster connection from Yishun Ave 1 to Yishun Central (faster than both 117 and current 804)

Cons:

Duplicative of 860

Good suggestion, can replace the St 61 looping sector of svc 812. Affected pax along Yishun Ave 4 can either take 805 or walk to nearby bus stops to take extended 804.

201911 SG

I'm worried about loading imbalance for 18. The 225 part will surely have super high loading but the rest of this route does not deserve a majority DDS fleet nor a robust frequency.

Can amend svc 18 at Bedok North and also at Tampines East, thus increasing loading more evenly throughout.

Bedok Int - Bedok North Ave 1 - St 3 - Ave 2 - Bedok North Rd - Bedok North Ave 3 (Bedok Reservoir MRT) - Bedok Reservoir Rd - Tampines Ave 1 (Tampines West MRT) - Tampines Ave 2 - St 32 - St 33 - St 34 - Ave 7 (Tampines East MRT) - Tampines Ctrl 1 - Tampines Concourse

This would connect Tampines St 33/34 to Tampines East MRT. For St 42/43/45, existing svc 293 can be amended to ply Tampines Ave 7/St 42 instead of Ave 9/St 42, and then split off as a separate bi-directional svc 294G/W, leaving svc 293 to serve the existing west loop only.

Svc 294W:

Tampines Int - Tampines Ave 7 - St 41 - Ave 9 - St 45 - Ave 7 (Tampines East MRT) - St 42 - St 43 - Ave 9 - St 41 - Ave 7 - Tampines Int

Svc 294G:

Tampines Int - Tampines Ave 7 - St 41 - Ave 9 - St 43 - St 42 - Ave 7 (Tampines East MRT) - St 45 - Ave 9 - St 41 - Ave 7 - Tampines Int

Pax at skipped stop along St 42 (Blk 459) can either walk directly to Tampines East MRT or take svc 29 from Ave 9 instead. There may be excess capacity along the common sector at St 41/Ave 9 with the G/W routes, but this routing gives it a more direct connection to Tampines East MRT.

map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jjLJ1eAMvypt6xZ1WPTM-ABtO0s&usp=sharing

carbikebus SG

Anyway don't forget the future Tampines North,Bidadari,Woodlands North,Marina South ITH..Tengah new town not sure got Interchange or not.But you know LTA with their suprise mah..

carbikebus SG

I predict Tampines North will be under Loyang and New Sengkang depot will take over Punggol and Sengkang/Compassvale.36 will be handed over to Tampines package aka East Coast depot.Bidadari will be under Kim Chuan.Marina south will be under Bt Merah,Woodlands North will be under Woodlands.If there is Tengah ITH then it will be under Bulim.

SBS 9256 X SG

Should Revamp the feeder services in Punggol

Svc 382 - Remain as it is
Svc 386
Punggol Central
Edgefield Plains
Punggol Dr
Edgedale Plains
Punggol Field
Punggol East
Punggol Central

New: Svc 381
Punggol Central
Punggol East
Edgedale Plains
Punggol Dr
Edgefield Plains
Punggol Central

BusAnalayzer SG

Should Revamp the feeder services in Punggol

Svc 382 - Remain as it is
Svc 386
Punggol Central
Edgefield Plains
Punggol Dr
Edgedale Plains
Punggol Field
Punggol East
Punggol Central

New: Svc 381
Punggol Central
Punggol East
Edgedale Plains
Punggol Dr
Edgefield Plains
Punggol Central

That would have been ideal but there is no way to get from Punggol East to Edgedale Plains without coming back to Punggol Dr. What you are proposing is basically a 386G/W going further down to Punggol East end.

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