Capacity changes on bus services (Part 2)

last SG · 2016-02-02T12:08:53+00:00

851 got back 2 bendies. Interesting how SMRT downgrades 851 when it goes low on bendy resources, and when it finds some bendies, it deploys back on 851. Its...

carbikebus SG

LTA make a big mistake for not deploy at least 3 DDs for 103 during peak hours

carbikebus SG

I think sv 83 SD is only on weekends leh. Weekdays like full fleet DD. Goodness!

Wasted resources,Someone should bring to LTA/GA attention.

82 need 2 DDs during peak hours.

119 can do with 2 DDs only.

Svc 3 need 3 SD to DD conversion.

85 no need full DDs too,So does 43M.

hgdep103 SG

sv 103 is now full fleet SD. Lost its only DD. I wonder why. Needs to be a strong enough reason, I guess because it should have at least decent loading between Jalan Kayu and Serangoon, if not within SAP.

sv 196 gets a SD fleet add. I guess this is to complement the DD loading towards CBD from both ends. Prefer weekday DDs on this service and weekends can be full fleet SD.

sv 198 joins the wagon of full fleet DDs with final 2 SD->2 DD conversion. This should be because of high demand from AYE Dover to Jurong West and Boon Lay to Jurong West towns during PM, reverse during AM.

103 lost its DD as a final resort by LTA to force ppl to take 117

AntiDennisLance SG

103 lost its DD as a final resort by LTA to force ppl to take 117

More people would take 117 if 117 was amended to serve the new Sembawang / Yishun North flats instead of introducing 883. Dorks. Some folks in LTA are straight out of IMH.

BusAnalayzer SG

103 lost its DD as a final resort by LTA to force ppl to take 117

Don't quite get the logic. Rather put more DDs on 103 and make 117 full fleet SD and introduce DDs when loading improves. Common sense. Same case with 46. On other hand, svc 5 continues to have ~50% SD fleet even though it has bi-directional high loading.

BusAnalayzer SG

More people would take 117 if 117 was amended to serve the new Sembawang / Yishun North flats instead of introducing 883. Dorks. Some folks in LTA are straight out of IMH.

Yep. We discussed it. Some idiots in LTA for sure introducing services to make quota. 883 is a must and required but should have been launched in Q2 2017 and not so early. 117 could have done the job till then. Now 117 loading even more cui.

SMB1368T SG

Whatever it is, just leave it as it is. Furthermore 117 does have both decks full on certain times. Till then time stands still

SMB1368T SG

Though maybe 117M would have been introduced instead

carbikebus SG

Whatever it is, just leave it as it is. Furthermore 117 does have both decks full on certain times. Till then time stands still

Only 2 duty experience fuuly seated the rest all shake like mad,3 of my friend drive 117

BusAnalayzer SG

sv 189 seems to be operating with only 2 or 3 DDs now. Can someone confirm? Apparently 189 now has fleet of 15 buses operating at 05-06 minutes frequency for full route and between BBT Ave 6 -> BBT Interchange, operating at frequency of 03 minutes during peak hours.

Due to addition of rigids, 3 DDS -> 3 SDs.

Please confirm if news is true.

SBS3004X SG

More people would take 117 if 117 was amended to serve the new Sembawang / Yishun North flats instead of introducing 883. Dorks. Some folks in LTA are straight out of IMH.

103 is squeezed like sardines on many trips even before it reaches Sengkang. 117 only have ghost upper deck, with some exceptions.

dupdup77 SG

103 is squeezed like sardines on many trips even before it reaches Sengkang. 117 only have ghost upper deck, with some exceptions.

Hi mr sbs3004X, you cannot expect crowds to be evenly split between 2 different services all the time. Cheers. Thanks.

wsy1234 SG

can 145 get another one or two DD. Maybe the new 129 might have DD on the service.

BusAnalayzer SG

can 145 get another one or two DD. Maybe the new 129 might have DD on the service.

should have got more DDs by now, but sadly hasn't.

carbikebus SG

should have got more DDs by now, but sadly hasn't.

Most probably the high frequencies of the SDs.Same case like Svc 3.

array88 SG

103 is squeezed like sardines on many trips even before it reaches Sengkang. 117 only have ghost upper deck, with some exceptions.

So apparently 117 has failed to motivate people to transfer to MRT at Punggol instead of Serangoon...

If historically there was only 117 connecting to Punggol, and then 103 came in as a new service, it would probably be a different story.

dupdup77 SG

So apparently 117 has failed to motivate people to transfer to MRT at Punggol instead of Serangoon...

If historically there was only 117 connecting to Punggol, and then 103 came in as a new service, it would probably be a different story.

Hi mr array88, super unlikely that people will go to Punggol to transfer. Serangoon is much more nearer to many other areas in Singapore. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

So apparently 117 has failed to motivate people to transfer to MRT at Punggol instead of Serangoon...

If historically there was only 117 connecting to Punggol, and then 103 came in as a new service, it would probably be a different story.

There aren't many people who take 103 from Serangoon to SAP. it is mostly people who live along YCK Road & Sengkang West who will take 103. 103 also gets more load from the Seletar Circus transfer stop, where many people from east/west will board.

Sv 117 may not get huge but has a decent 30-35 pax from Punggol MRT towards SAP in AM.

SBS 9631X SG

sv 196 gets a SD fleet add. I guess this is to complement the DD loading towards CBD from both ends. Prefer weekday DDs on this service and weekends can be full fleet SD

Sv 103 lost its only DD for 1 simple reason - LTA told SBST that they didn't have the proper DD certification for DD use on Sv 103.

I know it was a good half-year or more since Sv 103 had DDs perm, but yeah, LTA's response to SBST was only in the recent 2 months. Why the massive lag in response from LTA, I don't know. But that was what happened. (this is from insiders)

Which was why SBST reluctantly pulled the DD perm out from Sv 103. Nothing to do with demand-wise or what not. Probably will see them trying to sort out the issue soon in the next few months.
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Sv 196 that one, they marked it for a DD fleet add initially. Then they downsized it by half to 8533C after a few weeks. It wasn't meant to be a SD fleet add all along.

SBS 9631X SG

SG5387P & SBS7618Z on 48 today. Both S shift from ARBP, both using desto today as EDS doesn't have 48 route details. According to BC from 5387, it is fleet add but not sure about the other slot.

Yeah just to update - Sv 48 now has 2 confirmed DD slots from ARBP.

SDs out - 1174M & 8489Y. DDs in TBC again - because they keep throwing random DDs from Sv 80 / 132 / SP fleet each day

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