Loading level on buses (Part 2)

last SG · 2016-03-21T01:45:53+00:00

118 getting more loadings during peak hours,Am peak saw a fully seated DD with at least 20 standees while PM saw a DD with fully seated and a few standees wh...

dupdup77 SG

Loading on sv 39 @ 8.05am KUB

Yishun Interchange -- 34 (0/34)

Yishun Ave 2 -- 50 (0/16), 52 (0/2), 55 (0/3), 66 (0/11), 68 (0/2)

Lentor Ave -- no boarding no alighting

Jalan Kayu Seletar Circus -- 65 (-11/8)

TPE Punggol -- 67 (-7/9)

Pasir Ris Dr 12 -- 60 (-9/2)

Pasir Ris Dr 1 -- 57 (-8/3), 60 (-1/4), 62 (0/2), 62 (-2/2), 60 (-4/2), 41 (-22/3), 40 (-3/2), 40 (-2/2), 39 (-4/3), 38 (-5/4), 37 (-4/3)

Loyang Ave -- 37 (-3/3)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 30 (-10/3), 29 (-4/3)

Tampines Ave 2 -- 28 (-5/4), 27 (-4/3), 27 (-3/3), 26 (-7/6)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 22 (-6/2) I alighted here.

* KUB was easily able to manage load as it didn't cross 70 pax

* Overall loading was good, consistently above 55-60 pax, dropped significantly after Pasir Ris MRT stop

* DD would have been okay on this slot given most are long distance travellers. Can have DDs moved to sv 39 instead of giving so many to sv 83? Also loading on sv 39 seems higher than sv 85.

Hi mr busanalyser, doubt LTA will move the DDs from service 83 to 39. They worked on a systematic manner of distributing buses. Once leased to Go Ahead group, they will not change the buses to give back to Sbs transit. Cheers. Thanks.

carbikebus SG

Hi mr carbikebus, wonderful. Service 3 got so many DDs finally. As for service 83, I have not seen a SD for so long. Every bus that comes for 83 is a DD. Same goes for 85. Is it full DD for 83 and 85? Cheers. Thanks.

Hi Mr dupdup,I think so..The last time i see a SD on 83/85 is two weeks ago

carbikebus SG

If they deployed me to do svc 83 or 85,I will take a Citaro

BusAnalayzer SG

I know that :-)

Can't stop myself from uttering common sense.

dupdup77 SG

If they deployed me to do svc 83 or 85,I will take a Citaro

Hi mr carbikebus, so if I happen to see service 83 or 85 Citaro SD, it means the guy is 90% you as long as the guys are not those China drivers? Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 258 @ 7.36am (DD)

bus in front = 08m, bus behind = 09m

Boon Lay Interchange -- 02 (2/0)

JW St 64 -- 04 (0/2), 06 (0/2)

JW St 75 -- 10 (0/2), 24 (-1/15)

JW St 82 -- 27 (-2/5)

JW St 81 -- 39 (0/12), 51 (-2/14)

JW St 71 -- 69 (-4/22)

JW St 61 -- 80 (-2/13), 80 (-2/2)

Pioneer MRT -- 52 (-36/8) I alighted here. 44 pax moving forward from JW to JIS.

* A lot of people taking 258 from JW St 71/61 to Pioneer MRT.

* A lot of people from st 75, 82, 81 came to upper deck and didn't alight at Pioneer MRT, going forward to Joo Koon. Upper deck 40% full.

* The DDs are getting well utilized now and operating at a good frequency of 07-09 mins.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 258 @ 08.02 from Pioneer MRT to Boon Lay

bus in front = 10m, bus behind = 07m

Pioneer MRT -- 09 (0/5) bus came with 05 pax on board

JW St 61 -- 11 (0/2), 14 (-1/4)

JW St 71 -- 17 (-4/7)

sv 243 SD turned left onto st 81

JW St 81 -- 26 (-1/10), 45 (-3/22) irritating to see that people are cramping into SD when they can see 258 DD right behind

JW St 82 -- 53 (-1/8)

JW St 75 -- 57 (-8/12), 59 (-1/3)

JW St 64 -- 66 (-4/11), 67 (-2/3)

* peak loading = 67 pax with 243 SD right in front

* It is a huge miss to have 258 berth different from 243 towards direction of st 75. DDs leave empty during PM from Boon Lay when in reality have potential to get huge loading and alleviate load on 243.

hgdep103 SG

Anyone can observe the trip of 103 6.50am from sgoon int/7.20am at seletar camp g? was told that its always packed by yck rd and fly stops from greenwich to seletar a'space, around 50+ ppl cannot board

Sbs6750E SG

Hi mr carbikebus, so if I happen to see service 83 or 85 Citaro SD, it means the guy is 90% you as long as the guys are not those China drivers? Cheers. Thanks.

If see Malay BC, ho seh liao!

carbikebus SG

Hi mr carbikebus, so if I happen to see service 83 or 85 Citaro SD, it means the guy is 90% you as long as the guys are not those China drivers? Cheers. Thanks.

Just now,My friend drive Citaro for Svc 85..Svc 3 no need majority of half fleet DDs,Their frequencies is super good even for off peak at 7-9 mins.

SBS3004X SG

Just now,My friend drive Citaro for Svc 85..Svc 3 no need majority of half fleet DDs,Their frequencies is super good even for off peak at 7-9 mins.

If 83, 85 and 119 can further reduce DDs (but not too many for 85), then GA can get rid of the 33xx DDs. BCs can also not have to drive such a big DD bus with engine (or gear, I don't know) over-restricted.

43M can cut 1 bus.

SBS3004X SG

Just now,My friend drive Citaro for Svc 85..Svc 3 no need majority of half fleet DDs,Their frequencies is super good even for off peak at 7-9 mins.

85 can have 70% DD already more than enough. 11 DD, 4-5 SD is already very good compared to SBST.

SBS3004X SG

SBST deployed 216 SDs and 101-102 DDs excluding spare on Loyang package routes. GA deployed at least 160 DDs.

On the other hand, SBST deployed 216 SDs but GA only has 201 SDs.

If 3 has good frequency (<10 mins) and good number of DDs (40%), 83 can go back to full SD like SBST times, given that they duplicate each other like crazy, and there isn't enough demand from Sengkang side alone to warrant DDs.

3 or 83 DDs must never trail <5 mins behind another 3 or 83 bus.

carbikebus SG

43M can cut 1 bus.

43M cannot cut buses but can reduce the number of DDs..Good or not,GA will have to take the buses.

Fitishi65 SG

43M can cut 1 bus.

GA doesn't see a problem with those buses. No one here sees a problem with those buses. Oh wait, maybe YOU are the problem.

wsy1234 SG

i wonder why there is no DD bus deployed during peck hours for 851??? see so many unused DD in the storage.

dupdup77 SG

SBST deployed 216 SDs and 101-102 DDs excluding spare on Loyang package routes. GA deployed at least 160 DDs.

On the other hand, SBST deployed 216 SDs but GA only has 201 SDs.

3 or 83 DDs must never trail <5 mins behind another 3 or 83 bus.

Hi mr sbs3004X, you cannot say 3 and 83 duplicate each other like crazy. Having 2 bus services along certain sectors of the route is quite normal. They also serve many other objectives which you may not know. Take note waiting for 83 is much easier than 3 on return trips to punggol. Many people waited at bus stop 65071 (opp blk 103 along punggol rd) to go inside Punggol field/east/central for service 3 and 83 and will board either one which comes first. However, they (including me) are frustrated by 3 (due to TPE unpredictability and roundabout route in pasir ris). 83 is more consistent. Cheers. Thanks.

dupdup77 SG

GA doesn't see a problem with those buses. No one here sees a problem with those buses. Oh wait, maybe YOU are the problem.

Hi mr Fitishi65, I think the trend now is more towards Double deck bus. Sooner or later in yrs to come, single deck bus will be a minority. Cheers. Thanks.

Sbs6750E SG

Hi mr Fitishi65, I think the trend now is more towards Double deck bus. Sooner or later in yrs to come, single deck bus will be a minority. Cheers. Thanks.

6.9 million leh. SDs will be a nightmare. MRT 3-4 car only. Wa piang eh!

dupdup77 SG

6.9 million leh. SDs will be a nightmare. MRT 3-4 car only. Wa piang eh!

Hi mr sbs6750E, I prefer they put more DDs even on bus services with only SD loading. This is because I feel the squeeze among passengers on SD. Sometimes SD have full seating plus some people who are standing. End up more people boarded and some alight at various stops. You often get into chances where people tell you to 'excuse me' when you are standing and also you are sitting.

Worse is you thought you have finished enduring the first trip. However when you transfer to another SD, the same thing comes again. Sort of make your bus journey tiring.

Hoeever, when on DDs, all these scenarios I mention above do not come into play most of the times. This is purely my observance from a public transport guy who takes buses daily. For those who drive car often, they may not feel it this way and will love to have exact loading for SD and DD which I think will not materialize in crowded Singapore. Just my two cents worth. Cheers and thanks.

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