Loading level on buses (Part 2)

last SG · 2016-03-21T01:45:53+00:00

118 getting more loadings during peak hours,Am peak saw a fully seated DD with at least 20 standees while PM saw a DD with fully seated and a few standees wh...

SMB5007J SG

boarded 700A at stevens last night, there was demand between stevens mrt and newton mrt... i alighted at far east

carbikebus SG

Cash fare should be like this

Under 3.2km:$1.20

3.3-6.0km:$1.80

6.1-14.0km:$2.50

14.1-20.0km:$3.20

20.1km above:$3.60

dupdup77 SG

Cash fare should be like this

Under 3.2km:$1.20

3.3-6.0km:$1.80

6.1-14.0km:$2.50

14.1-20.0km:$3.20

20.1km above:$3.60

Hi mr carbikebus, bus fares more expensive than mrt? Cheers. Thanks.

Sbs6750E SG

You know, the LTA should introduce surge pricing on bus services, where bus fares are cheaper after peak hours. Just like the price for utilities. This would encourage people to change their travel pattern, and reduce bus loading.

You know LTA is encouraging carlight society.

carbikebus SG

Hi mr carbikebus, bus fares more expensive than mrt? Cheers. Thanks.

Hi,I just create awareness on how impressed public transport is mah like what our Ministar say during the increment of water supply.

How about $1.20 under 3.2k

3.3-7km:$1.60

7.1-13km:$2.00

13.1-17km:$2.40

17.1km-22km:$2.80

22.1km above:$3.20?

Too expensive also?MRT also raise fare ah

gekpohboy SG

I would like to recommend a new fare structure for Express and Night-Rider bus services.

Still distance-based, but in blocks of 1 kilometre.

Total distance travelled:

0.0km to 5.0km - $0.80 per km or part thereof.

More than 5.1km - $0.40 per km or part thereof.

A trip within a residential area (0-10km) would cost up to $4.00

A trip from residential area to the city (20-24km) would cost up to $9.60

This fare structure is 3 times that of the current one, and maybe at market rate (require less government subsidy).

Nonetheless, the fares remain competitively lower than Grab Hitch and Standard Taxi.

There shouldn't be an impact on the loading of express bus services as people would still take it for the low prices.

Hence, in a way, it's a win-win for both the Government and the people.

Meanwhile, Feeder bus services and Trunk bus services would continue to use the current fare structure, that is subsidised by the government, as they are fundamental bus services which should be accessible to everyone.

CZT SG

I would like to recommend a new fare structure for Express and Night-Rider bus services.

Still distance-based, but in blocks of 1 kilometre.

Total distance travelled:

0.0km to 5.0km - $0.80 per km or part thereof.

More than 5.1km - $0.40 per km or part thereof.

A trip within a residential area (0-10km) would cost up to $4.00

A trip from residential area to the city (20-24km) would cost up to $9.60

This fare structure is 3 times that of the current one, and maybe at market rate (require less government subsidy).

Nonetheless, the fares remain competitively lower than Grab Hitch and Standard Taxi.

There shouldn't be an impact on the loading of express bus services as people would still take it for the low prices.

Hence, in a way, it's a win-win for both the Government and the people.

$9.60?! For Express and Nightrider/night buses??

This is ridiculous lah, while idk how ppl taking express services may be affected, but this will somehow affect the attractiveness of night buses. Loading for night buses are already low, and u shld increase their attractiveness by first reorganising their fare, just like the CT services, higher but affordable

gekpohboy SG

$9.60?! For Express and Nightrider/night buses??

but still lower than taxi, right? some more taxi got midnight surcharge. those on budget confirm will continue to take the night rider, even at $10 fares. because taxi easily around $20 already...

carbikebus SG

but still lower than taxi, right? some more taxi got midnight surcharge. those on budget confirm will continue to take the night rider, even at $10 fares. because taxi easily around $20 already...

Night bus 3 fare band:$2,$3 & $4.50.

dupdup77 SG

I would like to recommend a new fare structure for Express and Night-Rider bus services.

Still distance-based, but in blocks of 1 kilometre.

Total distance travelled:

0.0km to 5.0km - $0.80 per km or part thereof.

More than 5.1km - $0.40 per km or part thereof.

A trip within a residential area (0-10km) would cost up to $4.00

A trip from residential area to the city (20-24km) would cost up to $9.60

This fare structure is 3 times that of the current one, and maybe at market rate (require less government subsidy).

Nonetheless, the fares remain competitively lower than Grab Hitch and Standard Taxi.

There shouldn't be an impact on the loading of express bus services as people would still take it for the low prices.

Hence, in a way, it's a win-win for both the Government and the people.

Hi mr gekpohboy, no point. This will make all those taking bus go to take taxi. If charging up to $9.60, may as well take taxi. Faster and much more comfortable. The night rider market is already small. You want to drive all away?

In Singapore, those who take taxi will not mind the extra few dollars if they can reach home after midnight. Moreover they can take their own timing and not be restricted to the certain timings for night rider bus. Those who always take taxi will continue to take taxi at night. Those who patiently wait for bus will be forced to consider their options if price fare is not much different. Cheers. Thanks.

CZT SG

yes agreed. Thanks for elaborating clearly abt that

carbikebus SG

As for this morning,Svc 3 got 3 DDs deployed with one of them will ended at Depot..PM I think 2 duties will use DDs.

TPS Timothy Mok SG

I would want the fare structure to be:

12am - 2am: 10% surcharge

($1.67 + $0.167 = $1.84)

2am - 5am: 25% surcharge

($1.67 + $0.4175 = $2.09)

This is so that they can have better maintenance if there is night MRT/night bus.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on svc 67 @ 17.20 from CCK Interchange MANA95 lush green

CCK Interchange -- 65 (0/65)

CCK Way -- 70 (-1/6), 68 (-8/6), 49 (-24/5), 38 (-16/5)

CCK Road -- 31 (-10/3), 27 (-6/3)

Bukit Panjang MRT -- 18 (-13/4)

Upper Bukit Timah Road -- 16 (-2/0), 16 (0/0), 16 (0/0) Cashew, 14 (-2/0), 14 (0/0), 17 (-2/5) Hillview, 16 (-3/2), 14 (-2/0), 14 (0/0), 12 (-4/0), 14 (-1/3)

Jalan Anak Bukit -- 14 (-3/3), 14 (-2/2)

Bukit Timah Road -- 13 (-3/2), 12 (-4/3) KAP, 12 (0/0), 12 (0/0), 11 (-1/0), 11 (-2/2) Sixth Ave, 10 (-1/0), 13 (0/3), 12 (-3/2) TKK, 10 (-2/0), 7 (-6/3) Botanic Gardens, 7 (0/0), 6 (-1/0), 6 (-2/2) Stevens, 6 (-2/2), 11 (0/5), 10 (-1/0), 13 (0/3), 14 (-1/3) Newton Circus, 13 (-3/2), 17 (-1/5)

* time check: bus in front = 09 min, bus behind = 04 min, 12 min (+08m).

Little India MRT -- 22 (-6/11)

Serangoon Road -- 55 (-4/37), 72 (-4/21), 87 (-8/23)

* 3 stops along Serangoon Road fetches = 81 pax.

Lavendar St -- 86 (-3/2), 89 (-3/6), 91 (-1/3), 89 (-5/3)

Kallang Road -- 87 (-2/0), 72 (-24/9) I alighted here.

* 67 still serves as an important feeder in spite of LRT between CCK way and CCK Interchange (also unlike LRT, bus stops are further away from CCK LRT).

* Loading is HORRIBLE between Bukit Panjang and Little India (range: 06 pax to 17 pax with average of about 12 pax on a DD). Serious waste of resources.

* Next bus is at 04 min -- wonder how many pax would it take, but is needed as loading is super high at Serangoon Road towards Geylang in spite of bus coming under 10 mins of previous bus (think: bendy as it showed NWAB).

Do you think it is okay to have 67 go all the way from CCK to Tampines with such uneven loading patterns? Comments???

TIB 585L SG

Should follow 23 pattern and loop at Sim Lim

AJQZC SG

Loading on svc 67 @ 17.20 from CCK Interchange MANA95 lush green

CCK Interchange -- 65 (0/65)

CCK Way -- 70 (-1/6), 68 (-8/6), 49 (-24/5), 38 (-16/5)

CCK Road -- 31 (-10/3), 27 (-6/3)

Bukit Panjang MRT -- 18 (-13/4)

Upper Bukit Timah Road -- 16 (-2/0), 16 (0/0), 16 (0/0) Cashew, 14 (-2/0), 14 (0/0), 17 (-2/5) Hillview, 16 (-3/2), 14 (-2/0), 14 (0/0), 12 (-4/0), 14 (-1/3)

Jalan Anak Bukit -- 14 (-3/3), 14 (-2/2)

* time check: bus in front = 09 min, bus behind = 04 min, 12 min (+08m).

Little India MRT -- 22 (-6/11)

Serangoon Road -- 55 (-4/37), 72 (-4/21), 87 (-8/23)

* 3 stops along Serangoon Road fetches = 81 pax.

Lavendar St -- 86 (-3/2), 89 (-3/6), 91 (-1/3), 89 (-5/3)

Kallang Road -- 87 (-2/0), 72 (-24/9) I alighted here.

* 67 still serves as an important feeder in spite of LRT between CCK way and CCK Interchange (also unlike LRT, bus stops are further away from CCK LRT).

* Loading is HORRIBLE between Bukit Panjang and Little India (range: 06 pax to 17 pax with average of about 12 pax on a DD). Serious waste of resources.

Do you think it is okay to have 67 go all the way from CCK to Tampines with such uneven loading patterns? Comments???

Split. Eastern half extend and terminate at Bt Merah / Harbourfront, western half terminate at Lor 1 Geylang,

TIB 585L SG

Talking abt loading

Svc 256 to be scrap in May

TPS Timothy Mok SG

Talking abt loading

Svc 256 to be scrap in May

Not supposed to scrap, 256 can be amended to ply Tuas -> Lakeside MRT Station (Loop). 182 can be amended to ply Tuas -> Tuas South Boulevard (Loop).

BusAnalayzer SG

Split. Eastern half extend and terminate at Bt Merah / Harbourfront, western half terminate at Lor 1 Geylang,

Split yes but my thoughts are different.

67 - Tampines <> Cavenagh Road (loop) like svc 23

986 - CCK <> Jalan Anak Bukit (loop)... Marina Center (terminate if merge with 171/700).

Extending to Harbourfront/Bukit Merah would lead to unecessary duplication with other services. I know you want it so that they get a terminating end on both sides of the route, but sometimes looping works better like svc 23.

BusAnalayzer SG

Talking abt loading

Svc 256 to be scrap in May

It's a good move BUT some on the forum may object it as there are still 5-10 pax per bus.

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