Singapore Blackhawks

clarencebk SG

Since we already have 30 S-Pumas, maybe i'll scale my prediction down to 40. The UH-60 is considered a medium capacity helo, and the fact that it is enlisted as a finalist in the RSN Helo competition proved that it is a considered option. Another as we all know, SAF have the tradition of buying tested platforms, therefore it is not a surprise that the UH-60 is being considered.
Infact by choosing it, it reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed.
my 0.001 cents worth Smile

Paladin SG

For the RSN why not get 20 Super Lynx 300 with the Sea Skua missle instead?

Paladin SG

For the RSN why not get 20 Super Lynx 300 with the Sea Skua missles instead?
Should fit the role nicely in anti-ship n anti-sub operations..

duotiga83 SG

we have already opted out the Super Lynx

thomasct SG

Your definition of a " tested platforms " as that of a system, equipment has ESTABLISHED / PROVED IN OPERATIONAL SERVICE in other countries - correct ?

Then it is NOT TRUE & ACCURATE to say that SAF " have the tradition of buying tested platforms "

SAF have been first buyer / lead / co-launch customer for new weapons systems, equipments etc.

Originally posted by clarencebk:
------ UH-60 ----- infact by choosing it, it reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed.

The above statement is not that accurate & factual.

It is like saying that say that F-16 was chosen because " reduces the retraining time and the logistics requirement with a smooth transition garunteed " since RSAF uses F-5E .

UH-1H Huey & UH - 60 Hawk are totally different helicopters manufactured by different companies

They are not only ONE generation apart but both of them are in are in totally differrent class.

alphanumeric SG

PAVE LOW!!!!

X-men SG

Think its all talks only....

If I'm not wrong, RSAF might be looking for a naval platform helicopters

spencer99 SG

If I am not wrong the Super Puma can lift 22 troopers. the UH1H - 12 and the UH60 can lift 14.

How many troops can the Chinook lift?

|-|05| SG

Chinook has 44 seats....
it can carry 13,000kg while the NH90 carries 9,000kg
The EC725 cougar(Super puma base frame i think) carries 5,700kg
While the UH-60 carries some 5,000kg

Paladin SG

Isitz? What is or what are the reasons? Or Just because the Malaysia had bought the Super Lynx and RASF don't wanne be called a copycat?

IMHO the super Lynx makes a good companion for our new frigates and LSTs.. and it only require a 2 men crew as compare to the 4 men crew in the SH-60B, 60F or 60R

tripwire SG

i think we opt out of the super lynx is because...

1.... we dont want to be accused of violating malaysian airspace.. when malaysian thought any lynx chopper above johor as from RSAF...

2.... we dont want our SADA to have difficulty in determining which chopper belong to us... and which belong to them... else.. sekali shot down our own chopper... then not so nice hor?

3.... we wanna make sure all foreign arms sellers to take note... they sell to malaysia.. they can kiss goodbye to singapore market (which is bigger) as well.... Mr. Green

4.... i can see the super lynx manufacturing boss having a heart attack if he realise that getting malaysia's 12 chopper contract cost him the other contract of 60 lynx... Laughing

IAF SG

On top of that...he'll have a headache wondering what to do with those stocks of rubber & palm oil Razz

While SAF is reputed to be a tough nut when it comes to dealing with vendors and contractors for big ticket items (always squeezing here and there) ...it always pays hard cold cash in the end.

Most arms deals in certain countries north and south are almost always done thru' fat cat individual middlemen (with ties to the ruling party) who collect fat commissions in the end..Military contractors, especially those with more established ties with SAF, can mostly deal directly with the 'owner' over here. Only suppliers without local mktg office can opt to go thru' unicorn international...

IAF SG

While the saf may be a good marketing reference, companies being bottom-line oriented will usually go for any opportunities that arise. Especially if an easy way out can be taken when some fat cat middlemen present themselves to the companies. These are individuals who purport to have 'important connections' that can actually help close the deal real fast. Case in point: The supplier of ex-Dutch Zwaardvis Submarines who spent a great deal of time and effort on a certain country, only to be supplanted by the french late-comers who betted on the right middleman Razz

Paladin SG

Very Happy

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