NAVY LAYS KEEL FOR FIRST LOCALLY BUILT STEALTH FRIGATE

Viking1 SG

Then why did Singapore choose a French design, with French systems and missiles ?

There was an American company bidding for the contract, so if Singapore always purchase systems "closely aligned with those of the USA" why Singapore did not choose the US design ?

Atobe SG

Consider the ships being purchased from DCN as an outer shell only, with all the main accessories probably selected by our MINDEF, Singapore Navy, and DSTA according to our own operational principles.

It will be quite unlikely for the equipment to be 100 percent French, not after our short term experience with the trial order of the French built AMX-10.

At this stage, nothing is mentioned as to how the Frigates are being fitted, and the piece posted is just pure speculation for purpose of discussion.

tripwire SG

indeed..... and to be really frank about it... they are mostly the malays who dont want to see the truth... as they still feel pretty strongly about malaysia... they usually listen to RTM and their main source of informations are based on whispers among their race... which usually skew their view in favor of malaysia...

the other group are those malaysian immigrants and uneducated singaporeans who have little or no military knowledge and tends to see everything in terms of size....

these peoples are the weak link in singapore's psychological defence...

the malays in this instant ... constitutes a serious weak link in singpaore's total defence...

we need to tear down infrastructures in singapore that was built on the basis of race or religion... and mix the races completely... madrasahs should be shut immediately and all schools should have a quota system like the HDB system... that will increase the malays chances of going into top JCs and subsequently into top universities...locally or oversea...

all religious sermons (muslims or others) should be vetted by the president's religious harmony team to ensure mutual respect for all religion and apolitical.

religious schools should conduct cross courses to open the minds and views of other religions like the way SAF merge the 3 forces OCT during OCS with the aim of achieveing greater understanding and collaboration... especially between the muslims, catholics, christians judaism and buddism and taoism.

Viking1 SG

Outer shell ? Right...

It is a FACT that the ships will be equiped with a French CMS, a French phased-array, French AShM, French AAW.

The only significant non-French component is the ECM equipment which will be supplied by Israel.

Don't know about the sonar.

So get your facts straight.

foxtrout8 SG

where u get u fact from...?

Atobe SG

Wow - I am surprised at your clarity of determined certainty of the types of equipment that will go into the Frigates being built for Singapore Navy.

This is about the closest guarded information that has not even been made clear to those whom I am in contact with in the industry, and these guys are supposed to be in the thick of the action - unless they are sworn to secrecy.

Perhaps it will be wonderful if you can share your source of information.

It is difficult to imagine the Singapore Navy having to cope with different equipment makes and types being installed across the fleet of mixed vessel types - unless the new equipment is a clear advantage over present weapon system or battle management system for which this vessel type is purposefully being built for the Singapore Navy to gain a battle advantage.

With this in mind, your posts will be correct insofar as the equipment (which you have mentioned) has never been used before by the Singapore Navy, and will give her an edge over the future combat scenarios.

YourFather SG

Could you tell me what was the 'experience' with the AMX-10s?

Atobe SG

From some source, mainly poor after-sales support, high costs in replacement components, long lead time.

Viking1 SG

French sources

Joe Black SG

Basically AMX-10 is crap. I wonder why 21st Div guys chose this in the first place. Could have gotten all these info from Indonesian Marine....

foxtrout8 SG

Realli?? Can show mi the link?

Let mi warn u , anything that is not officially declared as info from Mindef should be onli use as reading leisure. ...pls dun put ur words as if u are so sure with ur info , unless its official or else its crap , personnal comments or military secrets......

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