Xiao Long Nu SG yesterday was watchin crime watch...see 3 guys kill a taxi driver in sg..hw come they manage to get guns???frm wher? i tout sg dn sell guns/
Moonstriker SG xiao long nu: singapore dun sell guns.. its illegal... how they manage to bring in? Kinda easy really... ever realised last time when u come into singapore from Malaysia thru woodlands checkpoint? The police @@ until the car have kids and family thingie they dun check? heehee... tat's how i bring in chewing gum though
paulho SG It is veri easy to smuggle arms into singapore. Tuas and Woodlands aren't the ony checkpoint. Go to changi point ferry terminal on any sunday morning 8-9am and you will see what I mean .. immigration there is a big joke! btw, singapore does sell arms to bangladesh and myanmmar ... marketed by unicorn international.
CX SG Sg dun sell guns to locals... its one of the biggest arms dealing nation around... ST, for all its pretensions of a company with diverse interests like engineering, automotives, aerospace, etc, etc, is an arms-runner. Bangladesh and Myammar is certain... some go as far as to speculate that Sg was arming the Balkans while arms embargo and ethnic cleansing was going on there too... (not to mention that nobody was supposed to sell arms to the military junta in myammar... oops )
thomasct SG not to mention that nobody was supposed to sell arms to the military junta in myammar... oops )Who say so !!!! Check your facts - since when there is UN Arms embargo on Myammar !!!!!
buzz SG Bangladesh and Myammar is certain... some go as far as to speculate that Sg was arming the Balkans while arms embargo and ethnic cleansing was going on there tooI saw in some newsreel years back showing Croatia militia marching with Ultimax LMGs. I think there's also some 2nd hand Ultimax for sale from Balkans too - 100 pounds if I remember correctly. Also saw front page a picture of Ultimax in Fiji during the coup thingy.
thomasct SG I saw in some newsreel years back showing Croatia militia marching with Ultimax LMGs.If I can recall correctly - the Sg sold Ultimax , Armburst LAW & SAR rifles to Croatia Police Force / National Guard. According to reports , the Armbust LAW did alright - taking care of T-55 & T-62 MBTs.
bcoy SG I've seen pictures of the Ultimax 100 in the Phillipines, including one captured by terrorists. ST 40mm AGLs are used there as well. Seen a picture of SR88 in Fiji islands. Pictures of Ultimax 100 and Armbrusts in Croatia, used in battles. Reports of a Singapore pre-fab small arms factory in Burma....etc. I think the last Austin Powers movie featured a Ultimax 100 without the butt and SAR21s in the Japanese factory shot.
laser51088 SG yep, Sg deals alot in small arms, esp. assault rifles, the SR88 has turned up in middle east as well if i'm not wrong, not bought directly from sg, but smuggled there
Shotgun SG To us, the possible victims from gunshot wounds. We care about how did they manage to get the guns. To the Police/Customs force, whether they get the gun through or they get caught IN singapore with a gun, they are equally fucked.
laser51088 SG Illegal Possesion of gun is 7 years jail Firing the thing is punishable by pain of death (hanging) hehheh, they briefed us on all that when we went shooting during NPCC. . . and no I dun sell atom bomb, for those who are wondering what this is about, dun bother. . .
CX SG Originally posted by thomasct: Who say so !!!! Check your facts - since when there is UN Arms embargo on Myammar !!!!! READ MY POST did i say UN arms embargo??? There is an EU embargo and a US embargo and that already rules out all the western suppliers... sure, they could still buy from russia, china and all alternative sources but would you be surprised if they did???? so unless u categorise Sg as being one of those "alternative" sources who has absolutely no moral qualms about selling anything to anybody (which is actually precisely the case ).... some people (not me...) are still under certain illusions that Sg has yet to lose its innocence...
thomasct SG Bangladesh and Myammar is certain... some go as far as to speculate that Sg was arming the Balkans while arms embargo and ethnic cleansing was going on there too... (not to mention that nobody was supposed to sell arms to the military junta in myammar... oops )Dear CX, Did you READ YOUR OWN POST before you reply to my post. You stated that [b]" nobody was supposed to sell arms to the military junta in myammar " IF EU and US is everybody , then who are we - dogs & cats !!! ST, for all its pretensions of a company with diverse interests like engineering, automotives, aerospace, etc, etc, is an arms-runner. As for your above statement, better hope that you will not be receiving lawyers letters
CX SG some quarters in the west would indeed have u know that u do not measure up as highly as u would like to think. i frankly find the idea of selling arms to military junta who ruthlessly imprisons a democratically elected government, deals shamelessly with characters known to be active ( or "formerly active" ) in the golden triangle drug trade and does everything within its violent means to achieve its ends, REPULSIVE. Originally posted by thomasct: As for your above statement, better hope that you will not be receiving lawyers letters if u speak for them, then u can tell them to take the letter and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine. i don't give a flying fuck if they're offended by what some people think of their lucrative trade. try asking what people with some semblance of a spine say about selling weapons to the slime at Yangon.
paulho SG Originally posted by CX: [b]READ MY POST did i say UN arms embargo??? There is an EU embargo and a US embargo and that already rules out all the western suppliers... sure, they could still buy from russia, china and all alternative sources but would you be surprised if they did???? so unless u categorise Sg as being one of those "alternative" sources who has absolutely no moral qualms about selling anything to anybody (which is actually precisely the case ).... some people (not me...) are still under certain illusions that Sg has yet to lose its innocence... [/b]Sorry guys, all wrong. Din sell any guns to myanmmar ... only sold some old tooling equipment used for manufacture. Packed in aluminium foil then shipped out ... other words, we sold them a plant (source janes def)... but I think it's good, give the guys up north something to think abt.
paulho SG Also, during the 80's when still small small boy, I worked part-time as a production operator during holidays for a well established international company specialised in making NVG. During my 6wk stay there, saw 3 arabs with vry distinct iranian accent(I may be wrong), how I know they were arabs? They stared salivery at our chinese women who dun wear tudungs with short skirts like looking at porno pics in playboy magazine. They ordered a huge cache of NVG's, night sniper/MG scopes, oversaw the assembly paid in cash and left. The order may have been made overseas but delivery in asia because of sensitivity(western double standards). Think the company no longer operate here. They went "global" few years ago with the advice from our good government.