Which do you support? Ipod or Creative?

last SG · 2006-01-27T23:13:29+00:00

I have a Zen Vision. Why? Build-in Radio CF card slot for my digital photograph download Great viewing off TV via supplied cable What I don't like? Stu...

terohoh SG

I own an ipod and I think it’s user friendly and the design is just simple & cool. Haven’t tried a Creative but for a start, I’m not attracted to it’s look. So what do you guys own?

sohguanh SG

I own a creative zen 20Gb. I think the sound quality is good. My brother and sister own a zen neeon and zen micro respectively. We are all creative customers although you may call us cheap cuz creative mp3 players are cheaper than ipod Mr. Green

Ito_^ SG

iPod. Creative imo cannot make it, they are trying to copy every blardy device and ideas in the market and nothing original. The only thing that came up was Prodikey (or something) and it sucks.

vito_corleone SG

creative sound quality better. Laughing

sohguanh SG

iPod. Creative imo cannot make it, they are trying to copy every blardy device and ideas in the market and nothing original.

You have your view but be reminded tat creative are the Master in music as their SoundBlaster last time shook the whole world. In terms of sound quality, they still rule as always. They lose out to ipod in the design cuz bulky and nerdy but for quality of sound they are better and they are cheaper in general.

silv3rgal SG

definately Ipod, although I havent bought one. Speaking of creative... i bought quite a number of products of theirs, infact the keyboard and mouse I'm using now are also from Creative...... the mouse got a bit of problem the second day after purchase... me and my bro bought the same mp3player from creative too... some 128MB mp3player.. and i realise it has really "limited" lifespan... after a year.. it became a bit haywire.. and ever since months ago.. it totally stopped working!!!! Now i don't even know where to repair it.. coz it'll be a waste to throw it away... i emailed creative to enquire about it's repairs.. seriously i don't mind paying to get it repaired.. but i get no reply from them... Rolling Eyes

No more creative for me....

If u ask me to choose now... between Ipod or Zentouch or wadever stuffs from Creative, i'll definately choose Ipod..
Neutral Mr. Green

p.s. I happened to flip over my faulty mouse...and realised it's MADE IN CHINA. OMG...

Ito_^ SG

Originally posted by sohguanh:
[b]iPod. Creative imo cannot make it, they are trying to copy every blardy device and ideas in the market and nothing original.

You have your view but be reminded tat creative are the Master in music as their SoundBlaster last time shook the whole world. In terms of sound quality, they still rule as always. They lose out to ipod in the design cuz bulky and nerdy but for quality of sound they are better and they are cheaper in general.[/b]

SoundBlaster wasn't even their invention.. But it is good and it is still the best product that came from Creative. But, you won't find a soundblaster card in their mp3 player.. and you definitely won't find a soundblaster card in their wireless modems and speakers..

sohguanh SG

i emailed creative to enquire about it's repairs.

You live in spore? If email cannot work then use phone and call lah. Tat is what I did also. Their customer service centre at jurong east very big Mr. Green

Ipod are not without their problems also.

sohguanh SG

But, you won't find a soundblaster card in their mp3 player.

Wat I mean is they are the world leaders in sound technology R & D and last time I heard they even set the standard for some sound API so that it will be standardised. Sound wise they are tops Mr. Green

silv3rgal SG

Originally posted by sohguanh:
[b]i emailed creative to enquire about it's repairs.

You live in spore? If email cannot work then use phone and call lah. Tat is what I did also. Their customer service centre at jurong east very big Mr. Green

Ipod are not without their problems also.[/b]

Of course i live in Singapore.....

They have a very complicated after purchase support scheme... but my warranty is OVER... it ain't that hard to reply an email afterall.... if they have no intentions to reply mails, i wonder why they put it up in their web in the firsrt place. But well, i'll call them up when I have the time....

Oh.. u mean u been to their Customer service centre b4? your mp3player also got problem Question

I'm not saying Ipod's all perfect... answering to the thread topic, i'm just making my preference since I have a couple of not too good experiences with Creative.

sohguanh SG

Oh.. u mean u been to their Customer service centre b4? your mp3player also got problem

Yes to their jurong east centre second day I made a purchase. I plug in earphones one side got sound one side dun have. Go there then I find out why! I didn't fully insert in the plug. I see the officer demo for me see then I know! It was so embarrassing.

Btw the officer young young very sweet looking hahahhaa...... Mr. Green

Ito_^ SG

Originally posted by sohguanh:
[b]But, you won't find a soundblaster card in their mp3 player.

Wat I mean is they are the world leaders in sound technology R & D and last time I heard they even set the standard for some sound API so that it will be standardised. Sound wise they are tops Mr. Green [/b]

their mp3 players standard dropped le.. like machiam not much improvement from Nomad series. i used to support Nomad alot, oni a siao kia like me wld go buy a 400 bucks mg to be confiscated in school. so dun need tell me about its history, i was the one who went shop to shop asking for its mp3 players when most ppl don't believe it existed. for mp3 players (just this area) iriver is still the best, ipod, etc. sumsung is very good also, especially when it embrace ogg format, it recognize the current trends very well.

quality-wise now is ok oni. ipod is better, but not the best. i rather buy other brands than creative.

M©+square SG

IPod.
One of many factor:
There is product value. And people sees it's worth as well.

silv3rgal SG

Originally posted by sohguanh:
[b]Oh.. u mean u been to their Customer service centre b4? your mp3player also got problem

Yes to their jurong east centre second day I made a purchase. I plug in earphones one side got sound one side dun have. Go there then I find out why! I didn't fully insert in the plug. I see the officer demo for me see then I know! It was so embarrassing.

Btw the officer young young very sweet looking hahahhaa...... Mr. Green [/b]

Laughing

Ito_^ SG

Oh right, something to add.. iPod nano has so small profit margin some people believe Apple has sweetheart deal with Hitachi. I read it somewhere before.

M©+square SG

hmm....lemme go check it out...wanna read. Mr. Green

Ito_^ SG

can't find le.. but others say not so bad.

iSuppli dissected a 2GB iPod Nano and found $90.18 USD worth of parts. Combined with the $8-10 it costs to produce each model, the Nano ran about $100 USD to produce, said iSuppli. The player retails for $199 USD, meaning a profit margin of just under 50 percent.

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2005/tc20050921_4557.htm?campaign_id=rss_tech

but this says otherwise..

According to Forbes, Apple"s profit margins are declining, not fattening as one would expect. Why? While Apple will not discuss how much it makes on the various iPods, it is estimated that Apple gains about 20% profit from each DAP sold. With 33% of total earnings coming from the music player, the 45% number from the computer side of Apple is shrinking which is not good since that"s where the bulk of the profits come from for Apple.

http://channels.lockergnome.com/osx/archives/20060119_high_ipod_sales_means_low_profit_margins_for_apple.phtml[/code]

M©+square SG

this???
http://www.betanews.com/article/Apple_Maintains_Margin_with_iPod_Nano/1127505348

Ito_^ SG

not sure.. i think it got mention hitachi one.

chanff8 SG

I owned a 30GB 5G iPod (Video) and I absolutely LOVE it. Anyway, on to replying some of the posts here...

Firstly, its iPod

Secondly, regarding sound quality of the audio in iPods, Apple is catching up. One test in CHIP Magazine showed that the sound quality in iPod Shuffle is better then the Creative Zen series.

Thirdly, Creative is not creative at all. They had their own podcasts as well and named it Zencast. They said its to tell people that podcast not only applies to iPods alone. Well I only know that his Zencasts will only increase the popularity of podcasts. Both are the same thing, why is there the need to be given different names?

In addition, I feel that the cost of iPod is reasonable. Sure it may look more expensive compared to Creative but my friends who owned Creative MP3 players had plenty of problems. I'll go for durability here. Not to mention the beautiful screen iPod has and the sharpness of the videos are stunning.

Finally, the issue about how much Apple earns from iPod nano. Apple bought the flash disks for iPod nano in bulk, so naturally Apple will be able to buy them at a cheaper price. This may appear unfair to other MP3 manufacturers since Apple is a huge company who can easily buy flash disks in the millions. It seems that Apple bought the flash disks at 50% the original price.

In conclusion, iPod rules... Mr. Green