Diploma holders lip lai(come in)!!!!!

stellazio SG

alot of engineerings don’t do their area of expertise..instead they enter into business management..

Itachi SG

what about designers ah..? i considering going for design course.. if skali no job how..?

nullifi3d SG

I was like you one before 3 years ago. I decided to take logistics and operations management becos there was still demand for this industry professionals. Tell u the truth, i hated logistics course and its subjects. No, i didnt flunk in my studies and i did top my cohort. But there was no interest. I could have chosen marketing which is where my true interest lies. So thats the choice of degree i'll be aiming once i graduate in 1 months time.

Illegal Operation SG

I think its important to choose a general diploma.

Try not to over-specialize at 17. You may not know what you really really want now. It's alright to do an IT diploma, but if you went to do a diploma that specializes in a specifc field in IT.... say security, you may find that you may 1) realize later that you do not like it. 2) Realize that suddenly the demand for such a professional drop in a couple of years time 3) Find that there are limited number of universities that recognizes and give your diploma advance standing.

So, do a something that is more general. It gives you the space to move later on.

Illegal Operation SG

Or, rule of the time..

choose something that has a compatible degree course in most university if you know that you will be getting a degree later definitely.

Like for example... Diploma in Accounting. Definitely got Degree in Accounting
Diploma in Information System. Definitely got Degree in Information Systems.

Basically, don't choose something that limit your movement later on in life.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Definitely agree with this.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Originally posted by sohguanh:
[b]Coz diploma's now can be as good as degree holders. In terms of practical.

To be truthful, unless you are into R&D or teaching, basically theory are not so much needed. Cuz you learnt to function it rather than create it IMO. Tat is why some private companies prefer engage Poly than Uni graduates due to the nature of the job scope. They feel poly can do more whereas Uni graduates tok more than they use their hands Mr. Green

Btw I am a use hands Uni gradudate. I dun like toking but no use hands do ppl [/b]

Lazy... Laughing

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Originally posted by Robotics999:
A diploma by itself [b]is practically useless now a days... go for a degree next bah...[/b]

Never try how you know? But if you are serious about R&D, diploma obviously is useless. You have a nice rank, called research assistant, in fact, you wash test tubes. Laughing

joeacid SG

Erm... I holding onto a Standard Diploma now and is finishing my Advance Diploma this coming May.

This is what i heard from me clzmate:

She's a Chinese from China, working in ST(Singapore Technologies).
One year ago when she finish her Standard Diploma with me, she became a supervisor.

Now recently, as she took the Advance Diploma earlier than me and finishes.
She got a pay rise of $50 bucks.

Btw, i'm from a pte institution and not those very famous ones.
But is Cambridge Diploma in Business~

ndmmxiaomayi SG

Maybe different diplomas lah.

de_middle SG

degree holder welcomed? My honest opinion, it a piece of paper, but an important piece of paper, just like an advertisement of urself. Rest is up to job performance, many other highly educated people out there may not necesarily work as well as they study.

Academic knowledge doesn't equal to practical knowledge. So for those who aren't well equipped academically, don't despair, there maybe other hidden potentials others may come to reliase oneday. Smile

joeacid SG

Yah i agree. Degree is the key to the doors of the society.
My cousin brother who came back from UK with his Bachelor Degree in electronics from the University of Southampton, the world best eletronics University.

He came back found a job with only $2300/mth including OT, excluding CPF.
When i spoke to him for advise he says this:

"When it comes to finding jobs, its all about luck and your performance."

I guess this already can proves how much a good degree can do in Singapore.
But of course apart from that, i have another cousin sister who works in HDB.
She have a pay of $1800-$2500 depends on the amount of customer she attended to. She only have a 'O' level certificate.
When i consult her regarding qualifications, this is what she says:

"As long as you have upgraded yourself, you'll definately be rewarded".

I guess its all about luck bah. But of course, if you don't study at all, you wun even have a key to open to those doors. And of course, work hard in govt Sector lol.

Gazelle SG

This cannot be considered as wasted detour. If you work as a general manager or MD of a company that manufacture IT stuffs, you will need all the knowledge you mentioned from your job.

BrUtUs SG

x2 and dun go into IT cos u can jz learn yourself...

strikefreedom SG

engineering is about experience especial in the technical field. no matter if you are dip, degree or master etc, ur starting pay won't be very high if you don't have any experience. the money will only really start rolling from the 3rd years onward.

Gazelle SG

for dip and degree I would agree. for master, most likely you will be employed to do very specialized job and the pay should not be low.

It is important for any engineer to stick to industry for a few years before moving on. no employer will take your experience seriously if you job hope every 1 to 2 years.

strikefreedom SG

yeah maybe the 1st 3 years will be a good time to gauge else later kana a cheapskate boss that underpay you then it better to move. Mr. Green

MoonIce SG

really har
i come got discount bo
i always passed de ne

MoonIce SG

me hor got dip in biz specialising in community services but bo tio jobs there sia
coz la i cannot hear so good la

liew
but i dun regret wor at least i like the course.

so now still temping as temp admin loh
but good la inside a union =p

Gazelle SG

Singapore market is very small hence it is important to make a name for yourself in the industry if you intend to stay in the industry. If you are good, job will come look for you.

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