Jesus is a western man

last SG · 2005-11-03T14:47:54+00:00

Well, i rem his last topic was his rant that people mistook Christianity as a western religion now this topic seems opposite..dont noe what is what...

Ito_^ SG

ting suo de la.. gt more sia. i read dunnoe where he was actually an initiate of the religion or cult there. dats y he learnt those rituals. why he joined, i dunnoe le.

Honeybunz SG

I also ting suo he was just a carpenter, making tables and chairs for his customer's homes. Joseph, his mother's husband was also a carpenter. But I ting suo from the bible one, NOT from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of my next door neighbour's ex-mother-in-law's 8th husband's 2nd cousin's 3rd husband's ex-wife's mother's beautician!

laurence82 SG

eh, for one thing, i says speculations, or rather, one of the possible guesses historians made in their research, this among the theories he was brought to India to learn Buddhism

second, its possible, by that time, the Roman Empire is pretty well connected by roads

And, English wasnt invented at that time. if i see a book that says he speak english, u think i so dumb go believe meh?

laurence82 SG

Wait, I tot you know this, that the family escaped to Egypt to escape Herod if i am not wrong....

Ito_^ SG

no i read on a book in the library a long time ago.

Ito_^ SG

dun remember dat part.. i noe it says somehow they ended there.

somehow = blank, forgot.

laurence82 SG

Actually i got one book which try to dispel some myths, some on christ

Is he really a carpenter? In those days, a carpenter means something more of a general builder.

Ito_^ SG

and pastor kong says he was quite rich too, like a successful businessman because his family was the only person doing it in town. Rolling Eyes

laurence82 SG

I think pastor kong is prolly using this sort of thing to bull his way around about faith and wealth to enrich his coffers...

Honeybunz SG

eh... actually the book that I mentioned about him going to India did say that he was brought there by a group of merchants to learn Buddhism. This may be dumb. But the author is smart. This is the best way to make money.... con ppl with this kind of fantasy stories and make them pay for the book.

Roads were well connected but travelling was not cheap. Somemore it's all the way to Britain. In those days context, that was a very long journey. Jesus and his family were not rich ppl. Somemore he was to base there for so many years. Joseph was just a carpenter and his wife a housewife. Who was going to bear his travelling expenditure?

Somehow all these historians or scientists tend to make up all kinds of wild guesses when they are too desperate for fame. I have read too many of such things. They can sound really convincing. Last time Wanbao used to have one section dedicated to this kind of "findings" invented by historians, scientist etc. Whatever speculations or writeup on Jesus being in China, Indian or England, I will just read it as though I am reading some fanciful stories like Lord of the Ring or Harry Potter.

laurence82 SG

How u noe these guys are just doing it for fame? How u noe not true?

Besides, then how u explain the whereabouts of jesus from childhood till he enter jerusalem?

Honeybunz SG

He was, unless the people mentioned in the bible lied.

What general builder?
He made tables and chairs one lah. Ya lah. General builder of tables and chairs lor.

You actually bought a book on that? My goodness. How much did you pay for that??!?!??!

SingaporeMacross SG

Whatever occupation he had, he was living amongst poor commoners such as us.

laurence82 SG

Well, why cant people in the bible lied?

Laughing

laurence82 SG

Sheesh, a general builder, did i say, tables and chair builder? Laughing

laurence82 SG

by the way, how much u pay for ur bible? got tok or not? Laughing

Honeybunz SG

How I know it's not true ah.... See the logic that I pointed out lor.
If they are not doing it for fame, then they do it for what?

See my earlier reply on Jesus' childhood. The Church does have records here and there about that.

To further dispel the saying about Jesus "travel around the world" before he entered Jerusalem....

1) if he travelled when he was a kid or teenager.... Travelling is risky, whether it's during Roman time or today. Will His parents want to risk their child's life like this? This was not a game. The only time they made him travel was to run away from King Herod.

2) if he travelled at a much older age.. let's say... 20 plus. Joseph was a carpenter and later Jesus became a carpenter, should around that age (plus or minus).

So at what age should the travelling been taken place? Note: Travelling took a long time at that time cuz of the mode of transport they used, regardless of whether the road was well connected or not. Somemore now those soon-to-be-famous historians are saying that he went to England and lived there. That was almost reaching the Northern part of European.

3) If he had travelled to England, that should be something significant or worth talking about. But why didn't he mention it to anybody? Or why didn't anybody add this part into the Gospel or any other books? Don't tell me this is supposed to be kept secret?

The reason why his childhood was hardly or even never mentioned in most of the teachings is because that was very insignificant to His purpose of coming to the world and to His teachings.

Honeybunz SG

ehhhh it was not just one person who said that he was a carpenter.
It was a bunch of people. They lied for what? Also for fame like the historians?

Honeybunz SG

Oh, my bible, free one from the church when I attended my class.

So how much did you pay for your book?

Honeybunz SG

No you didn't. But He was a carpenter that made tables and chairs.
Not some general builder. I was just trying to correct you.

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