Dinosaurs Death Pose: Evidence for Noah's Flood?

BroInChrist SG

What do these pictures below have in common?

According to the NEW SCIENTIST (see http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21207-watery-secret-of-the-dinosaur-death-pose.html) when palaeontologists are lucky enough to find a complete dinosaur skeleton – whether it be a tiny Sinosauropteryx or an enormous Apatosaurus – there's a good chance it will be found with its head thrown backwards and its tail arched upwards – technically known as the opisthotonic death pose. No one is entirely sure why this posture is so common, but Alicia Cutler and colleagues from Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, think it all comes down to a dip in the wet stuff. "Although the roads to the opisthotonic death pose are many, immersion in water is the simplest explanation."

I think the secular scientists are on to something here, but whether they will consider the effects of a global flood is another thing. But while this cannot be used to prove that there was a global flood I think it is consistent with the belief that there was a global flood. See also http://creation.com/death-throes

despondent SG

so u believe that dinosaurs were wiped out during the flood? cos the bible clearly recorded tat Noah brought a pair of every species of living creature, male and female into the ark...

BroInChrist SG

so u believe that dinosaurs were wiped out during the flood? cos the bible clearly recorded tat Noah brought a pair of every species of living creature, male and female into the ark...

Except for those God brought to Noah to the Ark, all other dinosaurs and other animals and other humans that lived on land perished in the Flood. The fossil record is not a record of life like what evolutionists claim, it is a record of death by a watery judgement of sin. The general order that is observed in the fossil record is not a chronological order of simple life evolving into complex life, but one in which animals were generally buried according to their ecological zones when the Flood waters overtook them all and buried them rapidly in mud and silt.

FireIce SG

nuttin in common, looking at the pix. objectively.

BroInChrist SG

nuttin in common, looking at the pix. objectively.

Objectively, I think a few observations

1. Dinosaurs

2. Dead

3. Buried

4. Fossilised

5. Similar death pose

The last point being the point of interest that scientists are trying to understand.

FireIce SG

im not scientist

so no one believes what i say

bycai SG

if flood was the case, the entire planet should have skeletons all over the places like the mentioned dinosaurs. for god sake, why not let these dinosaurs rest in place it may possibly yr great great ggg grand siblings etc

BroInChrist SG

Actually the whole earth IS covered with sedimentary layers of rocks in which are found billions of dead things that have been fossilised.

See a;sp http://michael-amazingworld.blogspot.sg/2011/12/sedimentary-layers-caused-by-water.html

Aneslayer SG

It could be that animals died and fossilized after the flood... No agreeable way to date them.

Water covers 70% of the earth's surface... and http://www.fossils-facts-and-finds.com/how_are_fossils_formed.html. Unless we have a method of dating them, hard to tell which ones died during the flood... or by the flood as you claimed....

BroInChrist SG

It could be that animals died and fossilized after the flood... No agreeable way to date them.

According to the Bible, they died and were buried DURING the year long Flood. The process of fossilisation would take place over the decades or centuries since the Flood ended.

There is no shortage of dating methods. The main issue is with the ASSUMPTIONS used in computing the age of the fossils. Given that the Flood happened about 4,500 years ago it would mean that the fossils would be around that age and if tested for carbon 14 we should be able to detect them. And if so detected then it would be consistent with the Biblical account and age.

Aneslayer SG

Somehow I can't shake away the thought of fossils being formed before the flood...

BroInChrist SG

Somehow I can't shake away the thought of fossils being formed before the flood...

Why?

Aneslayer SG

http://www.religioustolerance.org/oldearth2.htm

BroInChrist SG

http://www.religioustolerance.org/oldearth2.htm

You seem confused. YEC are saying that the fossils are formed as a result of Noah's Flood. But here you are talking about the fossils formed BEFORE the Flood? In the first place you don't even believe that there is such a Flood, so what are you shaking your head about really?

And your link basically ASSUMED the truth of evolution. Note also the use of the word "belief" as in "A main part of this theory is the belief that fossil-bearing rock layers were laid down over an interval of hundreds of millions of years. Fossils thus represent evidence of the evolution of various species over a very long interval." So of course got conflict with the Bible, since it also goes without saying that he also ASSUMED that the Bible is false.

alize SG

Ah, yet another piece of evidence of God.

The dinosaurs drowned. So it must have been a flood.

Not just any flood. It must have been Noah's flood.

Aneslayer SG

*Ignores the assumptious opening....

If the fossils were indeed are formed as a result of the flood as claimed, the dating of the fossils should point to relatively the same time... but it was shown a very wide range of dates, assuming the dating method is at least consistent.

AngelOfDarkness SG

Ah, yet another piece of evidence of God.

The dinosaurs drowned. So it must have been a flood.

Not just any flood. It must have been Noah's flood.

HAhaha. =D

Isn't this 'evidence' totally forgetting that the Dinosaurs' Death Pose could have been due to the meteorite/(s) explosion....??

BroInChrist SG

HAhaha. =D

Isn't this 'evidence' totally forgetting that the Dinosaurs' Death Pose could have been due to the meteorite/(s) explosion....??

How so?

BroInChrist SG

*Ignores the assumptious opening....

I supposed in all your supposed reading of creationists literature you never came across the part about ASSUMPTIONS used in dating methods?

BroInChrist SG

Ah, yet another piece of evidence of God.

The dinosaurs drowned. So it must have been a flood.

Not just any flood. It must have been Noah's flood.

I supposed you would rather that it be due to any other floods but must not be Noah's Flood?

Well, we are talking about billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth.

At least the fossil record is CONSISTENT with global flood.