Jogging is not as good as you think it is

last SG · 2007-09-15T09:49:17+00:00

jogging is an aerobic exercise that burns fat. What are the alternatives to jogging? Are they running and riding the gym bike?

AndrewPKYap SG

because he never ever did "spurt/short intensive" training together with his long distance training?

eagle SG

Simon is just too narrow minded, preferring to focus on only 1/2 articles on how bad jogging is. I would say he's just wouldn't admit that he's too lazy to go for a short jog

There are easily research out there claiming the health benefits of jogging; claiming that humans are built to jog. Simon prefers to sidestep all these research and opt for the easier way out.

The way he trains, his heart will forever be training in doing short spurts. There's no particular exercise that helps him condition his heart to function on a lower intensity and smoother level. I'm pretty sure this is why he says this:

after exercises, jogs or swim.

AndrewPKYap SG

hahaha... Laughing

Simon Dean SG

Eagle if you think you are pretty seasoned we could meet up and see who lasts longer in intervals.You choose the exercises.

and you were suggesting that do it before sleep to which my preference was to do it during the daytime.

lazy to go for a short jog?hell what would that compare to..

eagle SG

As I have said, it is not about intervals. Intervals and jogging are 2 different things.

There's no need to meet up. Give yourself a year just on interval, then tell me how fast you run 4km by that time. I will do the same for myself, interval + 4km jogs.

But that's not the point! The point is that jogging do provide health benefits. Try to keep to your no jogging regime for another 30-40 yrs. Then you will see.

Simon Dean SG

You choose to bury your face in the sand?What health benefits?Shrinkage of heart?

I can run 2.4km 11 mins flat and that was in april.

eagle SG

I'm not talking about pathetically short distances like 2.4km. 11 mins isn't exactly fast. I did 10 mins 19 seconds, yet I consider myself slow. But take note, speed isn't the matter here. We are talking about health benefits.

Shrinkage of heart? Show me the statistics. Lots of bads? There are much more research and statistics that show that it is good!

Fact is, you are just plain lazy to jog, and you don't know the correct way of jogging, thus saying that it is bad. It's just like someone who is lazy to go to the gym, and do movements in the gym wrongly, then tell you gym is bad. I'm not advocating pure jogging, but rather, a multitude of exercises; jogging in conjunction with going to the gym, swimming, and interval training.

Simon Dean SG

Research from which year?

Just look at the death rates.You refuse to believe, wait for the next few marathons!

Fact is you can train your heart up without jogging for long distances like a dumbass.

eagle SG

see the difference? I advocate 4km-6km and you want to list marathons as examples.

Let's continue in the other thread. No point having 2 parallel threads

AndrewPKYap SG

eh, jogging has other benefits besides, "train your heart up"...

Simon Dean SG

Pyschological benefits i understand.

eagle SG

still more

Simon Dean SG

Its still accumulative over the years isn't it? Rolling Eyes

eagle SG

You still don't understand, do you? There are so many professional bodybuilders who do jog too. The thing to note is, jogging is not their main form of exercise. It isn't yours, not mine too.

Again, I would just like to emphasize that it is how you jog that matters. Just like the way you managed to build your body successfully while others can go to the gym for years and looking no better. The way you train is effective.

gigabyte14 SG

then, any ways to lose weight? Laughing

eagle SG

What Simon wants to say, and what the article wants to say, is..... it is hard to lose fats by purely jogging alone. Interval training and training of movements are also important and helps you burn more efficiently.

The difference between our views is whether we should even jog at all. I believe when jogging correctly, it trains and benefits your body in a different way as compared to all the gym and interval training. He believes otherwise.

Simon Dean SG

They are also on IGF, MGF and other crap not saying no hard work is needed but bodies response differently.

eagle SG

Question
You saying no hard work is needed in jogging or? Rolling Eyes

ChingAlvin SG

I love jogging and rope jumping and i do them almost ever week. I never once hitted the gym.

Might purely be based on perception but, when i compare myself with my friends (gym gooers), i am fitter (not stronger definitely).

I tried 2.4 and was able to do a 10 mins flat, but both my gym crazy friends gave up after 500 metres.

I cant do more weights, chin ups and strength intensive stuffs as much as them, but both failed their NAFA due to jogging, whereas i am able to hit a gold.

As much as both of them are fit in terms of strength, they were overweight, and have thick layers of fats below their muscles. they do grow in size, but still with the fats above their muscles.

One of them weighs 90 KG standing at around 1.75 and has around 22 body fats percentage

Another weighs 80+ KG and i heard that he has over 20 body fats percentage

I stand 170 and has around 11 body fats percentage

I feel very unfair for people who wants to lose weight by jogging and rope jumping.

IMO, rope jumping is the best exercise, followed by jogging.

Rope jumping not only helped me slimmed down, also gave me tonned arms, chest and it gave me my 6 pacs, which was not there before.

All kinds of exercises, esp for people who want to slim down, jogging and rope jumping will certainly bring them into a better condition for hitting the gyms.

UrPwned SG

From my experience:

1. Jogging super long disance pains my knees
2. Running(not jogging) improves my 2.4 timing
3. HIIT, calisthenics, squats etc improves my 2.4 timing
4. I am not able to lose FATS doing calisthenics, HIIT alone, as effectively as with running
5. Gym really is a superb tool for weight loss, seriously, i swear by this.

Just from my experience only.

I also think that with different body types i.e endo, ecto, comes different training.

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