Jogging is not as good as you think it is

last SG · 2007-09-15T09:49:17+00:00

jogging is an aerobic exercise that burns fat. What are the alternatives to jogging? Are they running and riding the gym bike?

OPT SG

Name one...

eagle SG

I will just list one article http://bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler37.htm

comberbache SG

I have severely flat feet and I injured my knees before in my teens (went to physical therapy, though it didn't help that much).

All I know is that - for me - jogging still HURTS my knees, shins, feet and waist.

Squats, deadlifts, and other compund movements DO NOT.

eagle SG

that's interesting. Just a few questions

1) Which part of your feet do you land while jogging?
2) How high do you "bounce" up while jogging?
3) What's your speed when jogging?

Btw, the original point of the thread is interval vs normal jogging, not compound movements vs jogging.

comberbache SG

oops. my bad - sorry about the compund movement part. hehe.

1) I try to land on the outside of my feet, but since I have very flat feet the tendency is to pronate inwards. I wear flat feet inserts in my shoes, and they help alot, but it's not a perfect solution. (Whether that's the shoes' fault, or the insert's fault, or my fault - I don't know).

2) I never measured the "bounce" before.

3) Actually, I haven't seriously jogged in a while (running to catch the subway doesn't count, right?). Back when I was in the Army, the speed varied considerably.

eagle SG

If ever you would want to try jogging again, you can start first on a treadmill. What you can do is to consciously try to land on the whole foot. Try not to "bounce" too high, for it is inefficient, and put lots of strain on your joints. Try instead to "stride". Lean slightly forward so that you utilise gravity to help you jog.

Start slow to get a feel of the technique. Not that I'm very good at it, but I do consciously try to do these when I jog.

Simon Dean SG

Dont ever do the treadmill, biomechanics of running is totally different.

eagle SG

agree biomechanics is different

comberbache SG

Well, I'm aiming for hypertrophy now, so I don't think I'll be doing ANY cardio at all for a good, long while.

I have a naturally high metabolism (been skin and bones for most of my life) and when I begin cutting I'll probably be trying out HIIT in order to preserve muscle mass. Thanks for the advice, though. If I jog again, I'll keep that in mind.

Roronoa_Zoro SG

actually i forgot what 5bx is like

1) starjump
2) situp/crunch
3) pushup

What were the other exercises? I forgot haha, can't believe it, to think 5bx was the most siong part of basic training too, do until giddy.

Anyone remember ?

Btw SImon Dean, thanks for posting this training method up, i will try it, I am trying really hard to lose weight 29 atm, so like 10years since NS.Always been a big fan of low intensity cycling/running for long durations like 1 hour running, 2 hour cyclling.

Lately i notice there is no improvement at all, no wieght loss, and i am training like 5 times a week. Got me really worried in the fight against flab Wink

Simon Dean SG

Examples

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=interval+training&search=Search

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tabata&search=Search

vIn.Warrior SG

I would say both Interval Training and Endurance Running are equally essential if one wishes to improve his timing for his run.

Of coz, the above mentioned is in the context of runners, specifically long distance runners. For gym wise i'm not exactly sure of its application.

But you are wrong to say that jogging is Not good.

Not trying trying to provoke any temperamental person here, but it's just the truth. Wink

Simon Dean SG

"not as good as you think it is"

Read carefully

vIn.Warrior SG

Exactly, i'm trying to say it is as impt as Interval Training, which you commented that one shld engage in it instead.

So your "not as gd as you think it is" is a no no.

eagle SG

I never thought it the way the article claimed anyway. Quite a number of us won't thought of it this way too.....

Anyway, just lock this thread la....

vIn.Warrior SG

Yes i think just lock it.

Let's not spread the misconception of running and prevent any spark off of unnecessary arguments. Wink

Simon Dean SG

Thats because most people want to hear what they wanna hear, see what they wanna see.

vIn.Warrior SG

Rolling Eyes

Well, i rest my case. This is your forum.

Bar is active SG

i tink its better for people with little knowledge of this to stay quiet... as far as im concerned, hiit burns fat better than steady-paced stuff thats for sure

eagle SG

seriously, this includes you sometimes.

I will agree that HIIT or interval training burns fat better, but jogging short distances (around 4km) is a totally different thing. It is just a different style of training.

It is only someone with little knowledge who can actually claim that any bad effects of jogging will add up over the distances to that of a marathon

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